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UK Government To Ban Sale of Petrol Cars By 2040
Daves Computer Tips ^ | 10/10/17 | Marc Thomas

Posted on 10/14/2017 9:50:40 PM PDT by Boomer

Bad news for petrol-heads then and good news for the environment… or is it? I must admit that I had to read the headline twice, just to make sure it wasn’t an early April fool. Then I read that similar proposals have been put forward by France, Holland and India, to name just three other countries. In fact India, which has some of the worst vehicular pollution in the world, has gone one step further by promising a ban on the sale of petrol and diesel cars one decade earlier, in 2030.

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To: Boomer
This plan is exactly on the same level as gun control.

Only govt & the elites will enjoy the unlimited travel range that gasoline powered cars give. All the rest of the population must be controlled by every means possible including limiting their freedom of movement via crippling their automobile via the name of the environment (Again).

21 posted on 10/14/2017 11:59:05 PM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be made the Cat Food instead.)
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To: vooch
electric generating capacity is a non- issue

I know your type; in denial.

Back in 2009 my liberal brother-in-law was like you, hung-ho about the power industry and electric vehicles - he bet me $100 that in five years most vehicles on the road would be electric vehicles, and that gasoline-powered cars would soon disappear. In 2014 he welshed on the bet. He's been wrong on a number of things. It's 2017, and electric cars are still a fraction of vehicles on the road.

22 posted on 10/15/2017 12:25:55 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: Boomer

the next question is- are all electric cars going to be tiny bread boxes? I loved our old cadillac loads of leg room- can even sleep comfortably in it- it’s an old boat of a car and was like sitting in a sofa when driving any where- I don’t see electric cars being that plush and comfortable


23 posted on 10/15/2017 12:30:34 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Boomer

I presume they will have to repeal the laws of thermodynamics and physical chemistry first?

Everybody acknowledges there must be one, or several, “breakthroughs in battery technology” for this great replacement of gasoline and diesel to happen.

But what is the basis for believing that this is possible?


24 posted on 10/15/2017 12:37:09 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like)
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To: Bob434

I just bought a used Tahoe.

In rural New England, where the winters are long and cold, this is not happening anytime soon.


25 posted on 10/15/2017 12:41:29 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like)
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To: roadcat
I think most people are misreading the intentions of these government dictates. It's not about electric cars versus gasoline-powered cars. It's about forcing people to give up driving cars. Only a small sector of the population will be allowed to drive cars. Everyone else will be forced to restrict their movements and must use public transportation, or use bicycles.

The more the left describes its utopia, the more it looks like the setting for Logan's Run. Young people will live in high density cities run by computers, with a hyperloop rail connecting the cities. The rest of the country will be abandoned. (Don't mention the death panels)


26 posted on 10/15/2017 12:43:44 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Jim Noble
I presume they will have to repeal the laws of thermodynamics and physical chemistry first?

Apparently they already have. Things are moving fast these days. It's hard to keep up.

https://newatlas.com/toshiba-scib-battery-triple-range/51667/

https://newatlas.com/sodium-ion-battery-cheaper-lithium/51682/

27 posted on 10/15/2017 1:29:44 AM PDT by Boomer (The dem party has become the North Korea of American politics; unreasonable, dictatorial, fascist.)
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To: Bob434

If you’re in your 70’s or 80’s this won’t be an issue you need to think about. For some in their 60’s and younger; probably but it will depend on location more than anything else.


28 posted on 10/15/2017 1:35:16 AM PDT by Boomer (The dem party has become the North Korea of American politics; unreasonable, dictatorial, fascist.)
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To: Boomer

For me, the ideal solution is a hybrid. Use the battery to start your car and run with it for the first thirty miles. Then switch over to gas and use the kinetic energy and some gas to recharge and keep the battery charged so it can then used for the last thirty miles again.


29 posted on 10/15/2017 1:42:48 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Boomer

And as a result of this environmentally friendly decision, many countries are massively ramping up power generation to accommodate the vastly increase electrical demand. Or ...?

GM will stop making gasoline cars in the next 3 years because there is such a huge demand for electric cars.

Electrical cars are such a thrill to drive over mountain grades and down steep inclines; oh, and never mind the joy of driving to work in subzero temperatures or during a blizzard, really hot summers are a drivers joy especially in backed up traffic They will just buzz all over ... can’t wait for the buzzing to begin ...

Fools joy, I think.

Meanwhile, oil supplies glut the market as more and more oil is found and brought to market.


30 posted on 10/15/2017 2:35:17 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF
Meanwhile, oil supplies glut the market as more and more oil is found and brought to market.

That is actually key.

Oil extraction technology is not exactly sitting still, and more and more countries are desperate to sell, to keep themselves propped up.

Then factor in, say, a 20% decline in gasoline & diesel consumption due to increased efficiency of IC engines, and increased use of hybrids, and all-electric vehicles. What does that do to the price of gasoline & diesel?

31 posted on 10/15/2017 3:17:01 AM PDT by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: Jim Noble
Everybody acknowledges there must be one, or several, “breakthroughs in battery technology” for this great replacement of gasoline and diesel to happen.

The answer is hydrogen, as a battery. Toyota is working on it.

The energy source at the charging stations will be electricity generated by liquid fluoride thorium reactors, LFTRs, at a small fraction of the cost of today's power generation.

32 posted on 10/15/2017 3:18:28 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: American in Israel

So how do they generate the electrical power needed to power their electric cars? IDIOTS!


33 posted on 10/15/2017 4:18:34 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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To: Boomer

This is so inane. It takes gas energy to make electricity and the to convert electricity to motion you have yet another efficiency issue.

this will save crap and make things more complicated.

How does one become autonomous on a farm with electricity only? It cannot happen unless one has a gas generator...

I have a feeling they want to make people dependent on a government controled grid. Then they can ration the stuff or punish people as they wish. Bubye freedom.


34 posted on 10/15/2017 4:28:02 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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To: Boomer
Nobody is going to wait 3 hours to "quick" charge their e-car on a road trip. Until there is a breakthrough drastically reducing recharge times then we will be using the ICE.

This is poppycock as the Brits like to say.

35 posted on 10/15/2017 4:41:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Bob434
"...so what happens when you miscalculate, are out in the middle of nowhere without a recharging station in sight? (I’m talking about the purely electric cars- not hybrids)"

Same thing that does now....you call AAA.

Instead of a tow truck with jumper cables, you get a truck with a generator, or, for an all-electric solution, a BIG honking battery to give enough recharge to get to a standard charging station.

36 posted on 10/15/2017 4:48:11 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Boomer

Government does not have the right to ban the sale of certain kinds of cars. But nobody cares about that.

Tow trucks. Fire trucks. Ambulances. Police cars. Do they plan to make them non-petroleum too?

All power out in Puerto Rico. No electricity.

With gasoline, you keep running until you run out of gasoline.

Charging stations need electricity to run. A charge takes much longer than a gas fillup.

This is a really stupid idea.


37 posted on 10/15/2017 5:08:11 AM PDT by I want the USA back (*slam is a violent political movement that hides behind the illusion of religion.)
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To: ronnie raygun

Imagine 7:30 AM Monday at the Pentagon. 40 000 cars arrive and park in 20 minutes.

Then, they all plug in....


38 posted on 10/15/2017 5:11:36 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like)
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To: Boomer

Unless we start building mass transit equivalent to European countries that will not happen here in that time frame. Add to that decentralization of production so that rural areas produce much of their own food as they did before railroads and now trucks deliver essentials. What we’re seeing are edicts that ignore history.

Now that anthropogenic climate change is in the dust bin we can pursue getting off the planet to avoid the destruction of mankind by the next mass extinction event.


39 posted on 10/15/2017 5:54:31 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Boomer

This is socialist bullshit .
Only aim is taking away freedom to travel.
Most economical use of luquid fuel is powering hybrids.
Flying cars predicted and promised for 80 years.
If it aint broke dobt try to fix it.
Stop worshipping technology.

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40 posted on 10/15/2017 5:58:34 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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