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Death toll hits 31; wildfires become deadliest in state’s history
The San Jose Mercury News ^ | October 13th, 2017 | By DAVID DEBOLT

Posted on 10/13/2017 11:50:52 AM PDT by Mariner

After four days of terrorizing Wine Country and surrounding regions, the Northern California wildfires on Thursday became the deadliest in state history, with 31 confirmed fatalities and more expected.

The most destructive of those, the Tubbs fire, killed at least 15 people, and new figures told of its destruction. Santa Rosa lost 2,834 homes and approximately 400,000 square feet of commercial space, and Mayor Chris Coursey expects the numbers to grow.

“We all have suffered a trauma here,” the mayor said. He is said it will take time to recover “from this incident. The city of Santa Rosa has suffered a serious blow.”

Even as fire resources pour in from out of state, Cal Fire Director Ken Pimlott expects the fires to continue to burn “erratically” and “have the potential to shift in any direction at any time.”

Over the day, the number of deaths rose from 24 to 31, as the toll increased in Sonoma County to 17, to eight in Mendocino, and to four in Yuba. Two others died in Napa County, and Yuba County Sheriff Steven Durfor said another burn victim could perish.

The fires’ terrifying wrath rages on. While Cal Fire ranks the deadliest fires in modern history by singular events, the multiple fires burning at the same time combine as the deadliest.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: deathtoll; fire; poorconservation; selfinflicted; wildfires
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To: abigkahuna
I thought the couple in the swimming pool survived. Is this the same couple you were thinking of?

couple survives in pool

Maybe it is a different family?

21 posted on 10/13/2017 12:27:05 PM PDT by chimera
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To: DoughtyOne

I am too classy to go there because of all the souls in peril but they would not be.


22 posted on 10/13/2017 12:31:00 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Smoke does not mean fire when someone threw a smoke grenade.)
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To: frnewsjunkie

The prairie States and territories (for all of their sparse populations at the time) were better maintained (as far as fire preparation) back in the nineteenth century than California is in the twenty-first century.

It drove me nuts when I lived in California.

They call it the land of fruits and nuts, but calling it the head of tinder and kindling could work just as well.


23 posted on 10/13/2017 12:31:07 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: chimera

It was an older man and his wife. She died due to lung problems while they were in the pool as the flames spread over them. I did not click on you link yet, but I read the story I am relaying on SF Gate yesterday.


24 posted on 10/13/2017 12:31:33 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: chimera

Yes, different story. I will see if that story is still available.


25 posted on 10/13/2017 12:32:31 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: ichabod1

It doesn’t happen there to the same degree because like other prairie States Texas cleans out underbrush and maintains wide firebrand.

This isn’t something that just happened like a hurricane or an earthquake. This is something which can be mitigated. But California doesn’t.


26 posted on 10/13/2017 12:35:12 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: chimera

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Forced-by-Wine-Country-fire-into-a-swimming-pool-12274789.php

Here is that sad story I was relaying


27 posted on 10/13/2017 12:35:38 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: Mariner

These fires are caused by a little known scientific phenomenon called CardSponCom (CSC). It is a twist on the phrase “carbon dioxide spontaneous combustion.

Once the CO2 levels in the atmosphere reach a high enough level, CO2 molecules will, when in large enough numbers and in close enough proximity to one another, give off powerful electrical bolts that scientist call “micro-lightning” (ML).

When this ML phenomenon happens close enough to dry, dehydrated and combustible material such as sagebrush, grass or Nancy Pelosi, fire can result.

These fires are a direct result of global warming and the only near term solution is to cut down all the grass/sagebrush and get Nancy to Seattle, pronto.


28 posted on 10/13/2017 12:39:59 PM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: chimera

The wooded areas in the Plains States are mostly man made. Prior to the settling of the West fires rendered the heartland a grassy plain.

Homestead laws required wide areas of open land with acreaages partitioned off for timber and tread fencelines to help with soil erotion. A bit of work with plows and some backfires along the fenceline enabled prairie fires to be somewhat controlled in all but the highest winds.


29 posted on 10/13/2017 12:41:37 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: ichabod1

Good for you.

In this instaing, I’m not too classy. None the less, the push back is called for.

On our watch everything is blamed on us.


30 posted on 10/13/2017 12:43:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: piytar

I agree with you on forest management, but this is mostly grasslands. Record rainfall last
Winter, no rain since June. This time of the year when the weather is changing and there are very windy days are the deadliest season


31 posted on 10/13/2017 12:46:39 PM PDT by j.havenfarm ( 1,000 Posts as of 8/11/17! Still not shutting up after all these years!)
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To: EXCH54FE
I lived in Santa Rosa for 5 years in the early 2000s.
Pleasant place to reside but ... the politics of the locals are horrid and they are very virulent on that subject.
I have been monitoring my 'friends' FaceBook pages.
Even on Monday am they were posting nasty anti-Trump material and comments. They're doing it full force right now Fri. even as the events are unfolding.
madness....
32 posted on 10/13/2017 12:52:16 PM PDT by IWontSubmit (2)
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To: ichabod1
Correction:

In this instance, I’m not too classy. None the less, the push back is called for.

In this instaing, I’m not too classy. None the less, the push back is called for.

Not sure what is going on, but in the last week or so I am noticing some of the strangest typing errors in my text.

33 posted on 10/13/2017 12:56:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: Mariner

I’ve been following this story since Monday and keep thinking this missing number is going to fade away to maybe 5-10 and that communication problems will have been the reason. But instead, the actual number seems to rise.

It’s hard to tell where most are missing from. I assumed at first it would be Coffey, just from the photos, but now it seems across the region. So much horror in such beautiful countryside.

I’m so sorry for the suffering being endured by you all. May God give you the strength you’ll need ahead.


34 posted on 10/13/2017 12:56:56 PM PDT by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: abigkahuna

It hurts to read the words you post. Terrible way to go. California should be better prepared for something like this, if at all possible. People’s lives matter.


35 posted on 10/13/2017 12:57:42 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: chimera

I’m watching the local news & they also reported that the couple did survive. Perhaps that was another couple like you said.


36 posted on 10/13/2017 12:59:27 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: Califreak

Well the landlines are down from the fires and there are a ton of cell towers out too. A lot of people with no way of communicating.


37 posted on 10/13/2017 1:07:47 PM PDT by sheana
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To: abigkahuna

Where did you read these stories, please?


38 posted on 10/13/2017 1:13:26 PM PDT by ThankYouFreeRepublic (Philippines, expat, taxes)
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To: chimera

In Southern California, I remember twice where the fires started way inland and did not stop until they hit the ocean.


39 posted on 10/13/2017 1:15:20 PM PDT by ThankYouFreeRepublic (Philippines, expat, taxes)
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To: Mariner

I have friends who have family from there.

Just listening to them, I fear you are correct.

Lord have mercy.


40 posted on 10/13/2017 1:16:43 PM PDT by redgolum
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