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Ban Youth Football
The Weekly Standard ^ | 10-10-2017 | Gregg Easterbrook

Posted on 10/12/2017 5:23:55 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo

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To: TangledUpInBlue

“The NCAA just released a study about head injury and sports.”

Is this available to the public? I can’t find this anywhere.


21 posted on 10/12/2017 6:13:37 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

We must ban mini-bikes, bicycles, BB-guns, climbing trees, swing sets, tree houses, skate boards, and swimming for those under 12. We must remove all risk from life. I am looking forward to the Government approved bubble wrap that must be worn by all children under 12. And if you disagree you must hate children.


22 posted on 10/12/2017 6:13:43 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: safeasthebanks

See the graphic below for starters. Or above I guess.


23 posted on 10/12/2017 6:14:36 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Are we saying this a problem that no manner of equipment can mitigate? Just asking?


24 posted on 10/12/2017 6:16:17 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: TangledUpInBlue

And what you heard on the radio could have been a whole differnet study being cited. The bottom line is there is a number of sports with risks of head injury. I think if they want to fight concussion danger a focus also needs to be on allowing girls and women to play sports better suited for men such as hockey and fullcourt basketball.


25 posted on 10/12/2017 6:18:23 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Yes, well the graphic in post 17 does not seem to agree with what you said in post 8.

Per 17, its wrestling, than hockey, then football in terms of concussion danger.


26 posted on 10/12/2017 6:20:30 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: rochester_veteran

Like the global warming hoax, this is about behavior control and money.

1. Who is paying for all these studies and who is benefiting?

2. Lawyers are recruiting former players for massive lawsuits.

3. Brain Trauma symptoms can easily be manipulated for lawsuit purposes. Anyone can claim to be confused.

4. Why wouldn’t a former player join the lawsuit? Most are bitter that current players are making much more money than they ever did. This is their final chance to cash in.


27 posted on 10/12/2017 6:29:12 AM PDT by Fishface (teach a man to fish...he eats for a lifetime.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

It is especially urgent that we ban baseball. Untold numbers of innocent spectators have been severely injured by balls batted into the stands. A friend of mine witnessed one such incident. Players have even been killed after being hit by pitches. Baseball bats are also used as weapons.

This barbaric “sport” has to go.


28 posted on 10/12/2017 6:48:29 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: ohioman; Colonel Kangaroo
We must ban mini-bikes, bicycles, BB-guns, climbing trees, swing sets, tree houses, skate boards, and swimming for those under 12.

Computer technology provides a solution. Instead of allowing kids to engage in outdoor activities that expose them to the risk of severe injury or even death, we should encourage them to spend their free time playing video games.

29 posted on 10/12/2017 6:57:57 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Rush warned years ago this would happen ,,, it’s part of the WUSSIFICATION of AMERICA . I’ll bet the Boy Scouts will be next accepting girls , faggots and perverts should ruin a once great institution for boys .


30 posted on 10/12/2017 7:00:12 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 ()-: There is nothing democratic about the democrat party :-()
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To: TangledUpInBlue
What are kids supposed to do? Sit in a bubble?

You can’t live life that way.

That makes all the sense in the world - right up to the point where your family has a member’s number come up. My brother lived to be 76, and he was a football fan all his life. But his playing - and essentially all physical activity - ended abruptly one Saturday in in October. And, according to his death certificate, he presumably would still be alive today but for that accident.

On the occasion of my brother’s death, the son of one of Mother’s friends emailed me to the effect that his mother told him of my brother’s accident - and pleaded with him not to play football. I myself was on the JV team, and continued through the rest of the season - but after that, the subject of my playing football just never came up.

According to this article I suffered brain damage when I tackled a big kid in a 3-on-3 game, and saw stars (and also, it must be said, even more so when I inadvertently ran into a telephone pole which should not have been placed in the middle of a school playground). But it is also true that most spinal cord injuries, including my brother’s, happen to HS aged boys.

Maybe football should only be played in college and professionally . . .


31 posted on 10/12/2017 7:35:43 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: Fishface

Exactly. Before playing in junior high and high school, I played sandlot tackle football (without pads or helmets) for years. And I can remember a few collisions that left me woozy for a moment, after bumping noggins with another player.

Of course, we were “protected” (if that’s the right word) by our size and relative lack of speed; we couldn’t generate the force necessary to generate concussions and similar injuries. Also worth remembering that, in those days, we were taught to tackle by leading with our shoulders, not our heads. That alone prevented a lot of head injuries.

And it’s not surprising that most of us survived playing football without long-term consequences for a very simply reason: we only played as part of a team (with full pads and helmets) for a relatively short period. For me, it was two years in junior high and one year of high school. The type of brain injuries found in deceased pro football players are the result of playing the game for years, at the highest levels of the sport.

Consider the typical NFL player. Many of them were identified as potential stars as early as junior high. So, by the time their pro career is over, they have been playing for an average of 14 years, with a much greater likelihood of suffering concussions and other head injuries. You can’t transpose their experiences over a much larger population that played the game at lower levels, with much less exposure to severe head blows.

I also believe there is a genetic component to this as well. Archie Manning, who is cited in the article, endured some of the worst pounding experienced by a QB in the NFL (playing for the Saints in the 70s would do that for you). But I’ve met him a couple of times and know people who are friends with him. Despite his experience in the NFL, Archie is in remarkably good shape and (so far) has avoided some of the issues affecting other players from his era. In fact, there are a number of ex-QBs who seem to be doing quite well, despite their injuries on the gridiron.

This is a part of the war on masculinity and an effort to neuter one of its last bastions, football.


32 posted on 10/12/2017 7:43:34 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: safeasthebanks

the problem with using college data, is that I am referring to youth sports where helmetless kids playing soccer have a higher rate of concussion than little boys in football gear.


33 posted on 10/12/2017 8:17:36 AM PDT by Codeflier (Thank you for speaking truth to power President Trump)
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To: Codeflier

I’m not completely writing off what you say, I’m just asking for a reference to the data.

I think you may be confusing “total injuries” in soccer vs football, with just “head injuries”. But I could be wrong.

Also, when doing the comparison, I think you need to back out girls soccer from the soccer totals, as football is generally not an alternative for them and, at least based on the college data, they would seem to skew the data.


34 posted on 10/12/2017 8:26:02 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: jalisco555
Much easier on the knees.

I gave up band after Middle School. Accidentally trashed my trumpet (dropped a valve) and was handed a sousaphone. A nasty beast to haul in a marching band...in the rain. Phooey.

35 posted on 10/12/2017 8:27:59 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers)
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To: Fiji Hill

Awesome. I just hope everyone realizes our sarcasm.


36 posted on 10/12/2017 8:40:32 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Moot point then. No one would ever know HOW to play football if they never started until College.

My point is, I played tackle football with my friends with no equipment. I played organized football. Baseball and hockey. You just can’t live in fear at every turn.

I don’t discount your brother’s apparent injury or demise. Accidents happen. My point is, I simply do not believe football to be materially worse than other sports. It just appears that way because of the NFL’s visibility and it’s former athletes who are dying. But those athletes were treated so differently then - playing through when they had their “bell” rung. That doesn’t happen anymore and the precautions in youth football have never been greater.


37 posted on 10/12/2017 9:04:19 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: safeasthebanks; Codeflier

When my daughter played soccer, I forbid her to head-butt the ball.

Soccer headshot collection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GrUFD0FC0s


38 posted on 10/12/2017 9:12:24 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: ExNewsExSpook
Before playing in junior high and high school, I played sandlot tackle football (without pads or helmets) for years.

Sure, I played sandlot tackle football with my friends as well. But we didn't use our heads as weapons. And our friends didn't try to hurt us. Just as boxing gloves made boxing more dangerous, not less, so has football equipment, especially helmets, made tackle football more dangerous.

39 posted on 10/12/2017 9:20:10 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("In a Time of Universal Deceit Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act" - George Orwell)
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To: jalisco555

You make several excellent points.


40 posted on 10/12/2017 9:22:41 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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