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Executive Order that Could Cause Millions to Self-Deport
The Federalist ^ | 09/14/2017 | David Barulich

Posted on 09/19/2017 7:27:45 AM PDT by genghis

This idea to use the tax code as a method for getting businesses to replace illegals with legal workers is amazing! Trump could do an executive order and put this in place immediately.

It's even better than building a wall because a border wall doesn't do anything about the illegals who are already here. This article describes something that would cause millions of illegals thrown out of work to deport themselves. No ICE round-ups necessary. No need to wait for Congress!!!!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; daca; selfdeportation; taxes; third100days; trumpillegals; winning
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To: genghis
This idea would save years of tying up the courts and paying hundreds of millions to illegal aliens' attorneys paid by taxpayers.


41 posted on 09/19/2017 8:04:53 AM PDT by doug from upland (Mayflower Hotel --- hotel of choice for Dem officials and their hookers)
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To: mia

One of the biggest problems in America today is the double-major, double-professional household. Illegals have made this option valid. Before, a man needed a woman, and a woman needed a man. The man provided the home, the woman took care of the children. Now they can both work, ignore the kids, take Parisian vacations, and ski the slopes of Vail while Maria keeps the kids. This is now a generational trend, with the children of AWOL parents thinking that this is normal.


42 posted on 09/19/2017 8:06:23 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Drew68

The billions that California alone would save if illegals were not here could pay for the entire wall.

Taxing remittances going to Mexico could pay for the wall.

Paying for the wall is not the problem. Preventing the entire country from becoming a disaster like California is the problem.


43 posted on 09/19/2017 8:08:03 AM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: Pelham

If it’s a law not to rent to illegals and a law not to report them.... WTF does that say about ANY law?


44 posted on 09/19/2017 8:08:47 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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To: Pelham
Paying for the wall is not the problem. Preventing the entire country from becoming a disaster like California is the problem.

If we continue inviting them in and giving them free stuff once they get here, no wall we could ever build will keep them out.

45 posted on 09/19/2017 8:13:44 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: ex91B10
I've said for years that self-deportation is the way to go and only three things have to be done.

1. If you are here illegally and we catch you, you're going to jail.

2. If you are here illegally and have a job and we catch you, you and your employer are going to jail.

3. If you are here illegally and own a house or rent an apartment and we catch you, you and your lender/landlord are going to jail.

The illegals will leave.

46 posted on 09/19/2017 8:14:59 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: SMARTY

“and a law not to report them”

Where did you see that? IIRC a city in Pennsylvania tried passing a law that did that and it was struck down by some federal judge.

Just like Judge Pfaelzer struck down Prop 187 and a series of Republican and Democrat governors let her get away with it by refusing to appeal her ruling.


47 posted on 09/19/2017 8:15:26 AM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: enduserindy

State laws govern how a corporation is established. A Subchapter-S election means that you won’t be subjected to an corporate income tax. You only pay personal income taxes on your corporation’s income.

However, the owner of an S-Corporation is required to pay himself a salary so that the Feds can get their Medicare, Social Security, and unemployment taxes collected. You cannot just pay yourself the dividends/profits.

So that salary the owner pays himself would not be a deductible expense. And the IRS ensures that you don’t just pay yourself $1/year. It must be commensurate with your occupation.


48 posted on 09/19/2017 8:16:22 AM PDT by genghis
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To: genghis

The Chamber of Commerce won’t like this. Much opposition ensues in the Senate.


49 posted on 09/19/2017 8:17:33 AM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: Pelham

There’s no reason that you couldn’t build a concrete border wall in addition to this digital wall.

However, it’s time for Trump to stop making excuses that Congress won’t give him the money to build the border wall. He can build the digital wall by an executive order.

It would be awesome if Congress would later enshrine that executive order in the form of a law that would be very difficult for Democrats to repeal.

That should take care of your objections.


50 posted on 09/19/2017 8:19:24 AM PDT by genghis
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To: genghis

The tax `carrot-and-stick’ worked for the Obama/Soros agenda for damaging America.
For the last several years young people couldn’t get full-time jobs with benefits because employers were cowed by tax regs and millions of non-exempt working class Americans paid the tax penalty rather than buckle to Commiecare health insurance.
So, yes. It’s time to put the tax thumbscrews to businesses and households that break our immigration laws. And nail our exempt class in DC and their staff.


51 posted on 09/19/2017 8:19:39 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

No job is the ultimate wall. Prosecuting a few of the millions of double-professional non-housewife households that employ nannies, cleaning ladies, and lawn service illegals would get the buses rolling. Mow your own grass, care for your own children, and clean your own toilets assholes. Or.... pay the ACTUAL cost of these services.

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Yep. Establishment Democrats and Republicans have been getting cheap house slaves.


52 posted on 09/19/2017 8:21:27 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: mia

Workfare next.

Move able-bodied welfare recipients into the jobs vacated by self-deporters, and cut their benefits by an amount equal to their new 40 hour income. Childcare tax credits would have to play into this. If they refuse, leave their benefits reduced.


53 posted on 09/19/2017 8:22:30 AM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough.)
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To: ridesthemiles

And those business owners making cash payments, no doubt, also counted those payments to the laborers as a business expense.

That reduced their taxable income and lowered the amount of taxes they paid.

If these businesses don’t take the deductions and still make cash payments, then, mathematically, the business owner would increase his after-tax income by hiring a legal worker for whom he could make deductions.

Break Even Legal Worker Wage = (illegals’ wage)/(1 - marginal tax rate)


54 posted on 09/19/2017 8:25:19 AM PDT by genghis
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To: genghis
It's even better than building a wall because a border wall doesn't do anything about the illegals who are already here.

I wish people would understand we have to have a wall or serious fence barrier. It is not symbolic, or fanciful or all the other things it has been called.

We could deport every illegal in this country- and without a secure border they would simply come back. That is what has happened for years. The entire solution to the illegal immigration problems requires a secure border. Otherwise it is all for nothing.

Solving the problems of illegal immigration, and the other border issues requires a multi-step process and will not work without all the key components. In the past we have done one thing and another- complete waste of resources. We have to secure the border, to keep deported illegals from returning, keep out new illegals, smuggler operations, and absolute criminals from crossing the border at will. We also have to deport or encourage illegals to self-deport in different ways. We also have to strictly enforce all of our immigration laws, even against businesses that hire and others that assist in illegal immigration in any way.

Illegal immigration is a tough problem, there are no easy solutions. We will have to tough up and make it all work together to succeed.

From steps I have seen that President Trump is taking, he understands the solution has several parts that must all be implemented, and he is implementing the steps though most people are not aware. We have to support him through all of this, I am convinced this will be the big battle.

We cannot weaken on the wall/strong physical barrier or any other part of this or we will fail.

55 posted on 09/19/2017 8:27:05 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: genghis

A $1 M fine per day per illegal would stop this crap. 30 days to comply (hire American replacements and train) OR immediately and live through a month of no restaurants, gardeners, nannies, hotel maids, etc.

Throw in a $1 K bonus for turning an illegal in and we’ve got a solution.


56 posted on 09/19/2017 8:29:38 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: genghis

Yet he has not done this. He has instead been told by Pelosi to calm them He has gone on record saying he has a heart for dreamers.
So why hasn’t he?


57 posted on 09/19/2017 8:29:38 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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To: Pelham

Asset seizure involves police powers and court system. Timely and expensive. Great idea, but costly and time consuming.

Issuing an EO and using the tax code to give business owners the profit motive to fire illegals is much quicker and doesn’t cost the government much money to implement.

You frame things as an either/or choice when, in fact, multiple options can be done in parallel. Go ahead and build a border wall, hire more guards, and do asset forfeitures. The more policies the merrier!


58 posted on 09/19/2017 8:29:45 AM PDT by genghis
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To: genghis

Soros is behind this immigration crisis. Get an extra-Secret FISA warrant and find out who he talks to, who he works for and throw them in prison.

That’s the only way to really slow this down. And build the wall.


59 posted on 09/19/2017 8:33:06 AM PDT by Vic S
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

Bingo! The Middle Class taxpayers are subsidizing the illegal labor employed by the 1% to make their lives much easier than the average citizens’ lives. Steve Bannon is absolutely correct about the elites committing “economic hate crimes” against the Middle Class and forcing the Middle Class to bear the costs in jobs and taxes for the Chamber of Commerce and the 1% is clearly part of that selfish hate crime.


60 posted on 09/19/2017 8:36:19 AM PDT by txrefugee
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