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US policy is 'not to defend Canada' in any N Korea attack
The British Broadcasting Corporation ^ | September 15, 2017

Posted on 09/16/2017 10:23:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: trebb

Under current tasking, U.S. strategic defense assets would treat a missile inbound for St. John, Newfoundland identically to a missile bound for Antarctica. This was Canada’s choice, not America’s.

The computers would ignore it. There is no scope for human override. Defended areas are defined by software tables. They are programmed to ignore non-threatening objects.


41 posted on 09/17/2017 4:35:56 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: Gay State Conservative; JudyinCanada

Yes, his name perked my ears up too.


42 posted on 09/17/2017 4:36:14 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NATO requires member nations to spend 2 percent of GDP on defense. Only a few meet this obligation. Canada spends 1.0 percent. Half of what is required. They figure uncle sam will defend them or there simply is no need, anymore, for defense.

NATO needs to be re-thunk. Perhaps 1 percent should be the new minimum. But, this 1 percent has to make sense from the standpoint of mutual defense.


43 posted on 09/17/2017 4:39:06 AM PDT by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: Redmen4ever

Canada was actually a major power as recently as World War II. They had a large Army, aircraft carriers, a nice fleet of other ships and a decent Air Force.


44 posted on 09/17/2017 4:43:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
You could fit all the people in Antarctica into a small strip mall.
45 posted on 09/17/2017 4:44:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Vancouver is a nuclear free zone so they don’t need to worry about a North Korean attack.


46 posted on 09/17/2017 4:48:01 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This general has obviously been sniffing too much maple syrup.


47 posted on 09/17/2017 4:53:10 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: nickcarraway

re “Canada is a founding member of NATO. It would be unthinkable of the U.S. not to cone to it’s aid.”

NATO North Atlantic Treaty Organization, founded against the Soviet threat, not against ANY Sino-Japanese-Korean threat.

And with Canaduh’s politics lately, why should america come to it’s aid?


48 posted on 09/17/2017 4:54:52 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You could fit all the people in Antarctica into a small strip mall.

Everyone of whom will receive the same level of protection from US strategic defense assets as Canadians living well north of the U.S. border.

49 posted on 09/17/2017 4:58:13 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: naturalman1975

I think your analysis is spot on. Let me add that the general is probably hearing it from his peers in NORAD, “why aren’t you part of the missile shield?” This is a question Canadian citizens might want to start asking their government.


50 posted on 09/17/2017 5:14:20 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Islam delenda est.)
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To: Gene Eric

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/09/15/canadian-special-forces-leave-mosul-as-they-prepare-for-new-battle-in-iraq.html


51 posted on 09/17/2017 5:15:16 AM PDT by albertabound
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The general is nonsensical. The US throughout modern history has always been a defacto defender of Canada, if nothing more than being our neighbor.


52 posted on 09/17/2017 5:16:51 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

unless you piss us off..don’t confuse keeping quiet, being good neighbours and minding your own business as “harmless”


53 posted on 09/17/2017 5:23:26 AM PDT by albertabound
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s trying to stir up some cooperation and funding from our arrogant northern neighbors.


54 posted on 09/17/2017 5:29:21 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Four letters makes this general’s statement false.

NATO

5.56mm


55 posted on 09/17/2017 5:32:31 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can anyone spell N-O-R-A-D anymore?


56 posted on 09/17/2017 5:34:11 AM PDT by Lysandru
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To: Gene Eric
"Canada certainly is not defending us from the wicked wrath of Islam."

Really???

Canadian special forces were sent to Afghanistan in October, 2001 a couple of weeks after 9/11. Was that quick enough for you? Regular forces arrived in Kandahar a couple of months later. Here is an excerpt from Wiki:

"Regular forces arrived in Kandahar during January–February 2002. In March 2002, three Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry snipers fought alongside U.S. Army units during Operation Anaconda. In the operation the team broke, and re-broke, the kill record for a long distance sniper kill ...Operation Anaconda was also the first time since the Korean War that Canadian soldiers relieved American soldiers in a combat situation. Canadian forces also undertook Operation Harpoon in the Shah-i-Kot Valley. Other forces in the country provided garrison and security troops."

159 Canadians died in Afghanistan, proportionally that would be over 1,500 American deaths. You can read the whole article here . You might learn something.

57 posted on 09/17/2017 5:35:17 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Islam delenda est.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But... but... but what if NK attacks Luxembourg?


58 posted on 09/17/2017 5:49:02 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: albertabound
unless you piss us off..don’t confuse keeping quiet, being good neighbours and minding your own business as “harmless”

Yah...you guys are known to fight dirty against the boards.It ain't no coincidence that there's a total of only about two dozen teeth in the entire NHL!

59 posted on 09/17/2017 5:49:37 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Respectfully, I disagree. I think the general is correct, though my view depends on the definition of “defend.”

If “defend” means to try to shoot down incoming missiles, how does the US do that? Because of 30 years of progressive screaming and obstruction, the US has almost no missile defense for itself. And what it does have is questionable in its effectiveness.

If the US sees an ICBM headed toward Canada with a suspected nuclear warhead and uses the US anti ballistic missile system against it, a significant part of the US system will be used up, and irreplaceable in the short term.

If the US had a policy of “defending” Canada with the US ABM system, it would leave the US immediately more vulnerable than it already is. What a perfect situation for the Norks to now launch against the US. That’s not smart. Especially given Canada’s luke-warm if not anti-US attitude.

I don’t believe the general was saying that the US would shirk it’s NATO obligations to aid Canada if Canada was attacked. But if it comes to using the scarce and fragile US anti-missile defense system to defend Canada from an ICBM attack, I think the general would be correct in saying the US won’t do it.


60 posted on 09/17/2017 5:50:39 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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