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Tesla Battery, Subsidy and Sustainability Fantasies
Townhall.com ^ | July 22, 2017 | Paul Driessen

Posted on 07/22/2017 9:39:45 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Elsie

Some guy did the “Cannonball Run” drive from New York city to California (LA?) driving almost 29 hours - they made one really fast stop for gas, the rest was driving.

“The unnamed tracking company says the Benz pulled into the Portofino Hotel and Marina in Redondo Beach, California, at 11:46 p.m. on October 20 after driving 2,803 miles. The total time: 28 hours, 50 minutes and about 30 seconds.”


81 posted on 07/22/2017 12:29:04 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: central_va
Can the jeep in this photo even move?


82 posted on 07/22/2017 12:30:10 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: 21twelve

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/03/ny-la-26-hours-28-minutes-gt-r-powered-dual-control-infiniti-q50/


83 posted on 07/22/2017 12:33:48 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: 21twelve

” - they made one really fast stop for gas, the rest was driving.”

25 mpg at over 100 mph? I don’t think so.


84 posted on 07/22/2017 12:36:19 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Elvon Musk has raised welfare-queenery to a fine art, yet there are those useful idiots who worship him as a beacon of free-market capitalism.

May I suggest we change his nickanme to Elon Muskito (he's a blood sucker off the government).

85 posted on 07/22/2017 12:37:59 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 21twelve

“Some guy did the “Cannonball Run” drive “

Actually, three guys. Two drivers and a spotter but it wasn’t in the Cannonball Run.


86 posted on 07/22/2017 12:38:22 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Your comparison is ridiculous. My point was that takes hours to charge an e-vehicle and only 5 minutes to refuel a real car. But you knew that.


87 posted on 07/22/2017 12:38:49 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

But the English does not mean that at all. It is, in fact, nonsense. As conservatives we are supposed to be a bit more precise than that in our language, not throw out phrases hoping the reader kind of understands what we have in mind. It does NOT mean two thirds or three fifths of anything. It means what it says- three times shorter which must be a negative number. We learn our language form in public school. That necessitates we relearn the actual shape and substance of the language outside of school or we speak the language we were taught by the Leftists and our brains work in the amorphous channels cut by the Left.


88 posted on 07/22/2017 12:39:33 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: TexasGator; arthurus; ctdonath2

“11 months is one month shorter than 12.
10 months is 2x shorter.”

Your example is not formulated the same way as the statement in the article we were discussing.

“What is the life expectancy of batteries, compared to engines in gasoline-powered cars? Two or three times shorter?”

In your example, you’re multiplying a known difference between two time periods. How much shorter is the life expectancy of an ICE than the life expectancy that isn’t “shorter”? You can’t answer that, because we aren’t told what the base life expectancy is (the “12” in your example).

We’re left having to imagine what the author had in mind. If the author was thinking, e.g. 200,000 miles is the not-short life expectancy, and the actual life expectancy of an ICE is 150,000 miles — then “two to three times shorter” equates to 50,000 to 100,000 miles for the battery life expectancy.

However, if the author was thinking that 250,000 miles is a not-short life expectancy; then battery life is somewhere between minus 50,000 miles, and zero. An obviously absurd answer. The “X times less” formulation is always absurd, unless there’s the equivalent of the “12” from your example.


89 posted on 07/22/2017 12:40:07 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: central_va

” Your comparison is ridiculous. My point was that takes hours to charge an e-vehicle and only 5 minutes to refuel a real car. But you knew that.”

The Tesla can be recharged for 170 miles in 30 minutes.

It can also be charged while you are sleeping.

But you knew that.


90 posted on 07/22/2017 12:46:26 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: central_va

“a real car. “

Define ‘a real car’.


91 posted on 07/22/2017 12:49:26 PM PDT by TexasGator
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92 posted on 07/22/2017 12:49:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

it is no different. What I gave as example is exactly the same. You cannot have a length or a distance or a time period that is two times shorter than another without it being negative. One could say that something is one third or one half the amount of something else, if that is what one means.It is not just the ability to use English but also the ability to imagine quantities and use simple arithmetic. If one cannot do that then one probably should not be expressing opinions or trying to lay out facts for the edification of others


93 posted on 07/22/2017 12:51:40 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus

You’re arguing with someone, who has been trying to agree with you!!


94 posted on 07/22/2017 1:10:06 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: central_va

Agreed!


95 posted on 07/22/2017 1:47:59 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Elsie

Good points! Not many.


96 posted on 07/22/2017 2:10:25 PM PDT by GnuThere
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To: TexasGator

Gee 30 minutes vs 5 minutes to refill a real car. At 70 MPH in 25 minutes I would be 29 miles ahead of you.


97 posted on 07/22/2017 3:00:26 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TexasGator

A real car doesn’t have to stop every 170 miles for 30 minutes to recharge.


98 posted on 07/22/2017 3:02:29 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Elsie

We’re talking repeatedly reused launch vehicles, not just test vehicles.


99 posted on 07/22/2017 3:26:18 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: volunbeer

Bingo. Musk has a goal, and these ventures are steps to that goal. Insofar as legislators hand out money to encourage certain developments, one can’t fault Musk for leveraging them for exactly what they’re intended for, and to great effect, being in line with his goals.


100 posted on 07/22/2017 3:33:50 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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