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Tesla Battery, Subsidy and Sustainability Fantasies
Townhall.com ^ | July 22, 2017 | Paul Driessen

Posted on 07/22/2017 9:39:45 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: central_va

Tesla “super chargers” will give near 300 miles in just 20 minutes.


101 posted on 07/22/2017 3:35:34 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: central_va

We’re getting within near equivalent, half the range in just 4x “reload” time, measured in minutes. And that’s not counting the differing recharge options.

Most people drive much less than the vehicle energy range daily. Plug in the EV at night, it’s ready for a full day of normal use by morning (without “super charger”, just house voltages). I drove a Leaf for two years, and rarely ran low even with its paltry 80 mile range. If long distance is an issue, a second car (normal) or a rental will suffice until infrastructure and power tech advances further (eventually making gasoline look disreputable).


102 posted on 07/22/2017 3:46:36 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: central_va

But a gas car does have to stop every 300-400 miles to refuel, usually at an inconvenient time. In contrast, that EV is topped off every morning with zero personal time impact. If you’re talking long trips, either way you’ll probably want a 20 minute break after 300+ miles of non-stop driving.


103 posted on 07/22/2017 3:50:16 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: ctdonath2

The Muskrat is a coward and a con-artist.

He is ONLY NOW lobbying for an end to the $7500 Fed subsidies.

Why?

Because Tesla will soon hit the 200,000 cars sold threshold beyond which the $7500 Fed subsidy for EV sales declines to ZERO!

So the Muskrat doesn’t want his competitors to get the subsidy while his Tesla company can no longer take advantage of it. He’s already milked all he could from the subsidy.

Muskrat’s motive is PURELY SELFISH. He wants the gov’t subsidies ONLY when it’s good for him.

Another perspective to think about is the subsidy is really stealing tax money from hard-working Americans so that rich green enviros can drive expensive EV sports cars.

It’s totally unethical and discriminates in favor of rich, green azzholes — all in the name of “saving the planet.”


104 posted on 07/22/2017 3:51:22 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: Kaslin

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Every “EV” made is a burner of coal, thus vastly more “polluting” than any IC engine made in the last 50 years.

Choice of Fools!
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105 posted on 07/22/2017 3:54:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TexasGator

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Same with TexasGators: no gray matter to operate them.
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106 posted on 07/22/2017 3:58:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Owen

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US is a net exporter of petroleum.
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107 posted on 07/22/2017 4:03:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ctdonath2

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>> “ viable progress toward Mars” <<

LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


108 posted on 07/22/2017 4:04:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: central_va

Thanks to all of you for telling me about the Volt. Why wasn’t it more soccessful?


109 posted on 07/22/2017 4:09:30 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: editor-surveyor

Oh for God’s sake:

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_wkly_dc_NUS-Z00_mbblpd_w.htm


110 posted on 07/22/2017 4:20:26 PM PDT by Owen
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To: editor-surveyor

He’s testing a serious heavy lift rocket (reusable to boot) this week. Major step in interplanetary travel.


111 posted on 07/22/2017 7:43:24 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: ctdonath2

Seriously?

There will never be “interplanetary travel.”

There isn’t a shred of reason for attempting it.

Fantasy Land.


112 posted on 07/22/2017 8:08:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ctdonath2
I don't have a problem with Musk building whatever he wants. But I do have a problem with lies. He says he's saving the planet by building cars that do 0 to 60 in 2.3 seconds. That's a lie for two reasons. None of his companies are about saving the planet and luxury sports cars do the opposite.

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/the-truth-behind-venture-socialist-elon-musk-the-paris-deal

113 posted on 07/23/2017 6:29:02 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Da Coyote

“Of course, all of this is far beyond the meager abilities of your typical MSM writer, who thinks one must put caps on unused electrical outlets in order to conserve electricity.”

Well shore you gots to put a cap on a outlet what ain’t in use to keep dem lectrons frum leakin’ out, ain’t dat right?


114 posted on 07/23/2017 8:35:53 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: joshua c

A good mule will walk all day on half a dozen ears of corn and whatever it can scavenge. I’m thinking of shopping for one. Just look at the performance of this model...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHH8S-6URws

No insurance required, no driver’s license and if you go to sleep the worst thing that can happen is you fall off and break your neck.


115 posted on 07/23/2017 8:56:07 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: ctdonath2; arthurus; USFRIENDINVICTORIA

“Colloquial language: technically incorrect, but understood by everyone to the point that you’d have to be a deliberate idiot to not understand.”

Or you have to be a deliberate idiot to write such nonsense and a deliberate idiot make excuses for such nonsense. Life is difficult enough without having to decipher jibberish. The ability to communicate a definite meaning seems to be rapidly disappearing from the Earth.


116 posted on 07/23/2017 9:08:09 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: central_va

Perhaps you should buy a hybrid. Real cars go more than 700 miles on a tank?


117 posted on 07/23/2017 11:32:39 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: ctdonath2

If you’re talking long trips, either way you’ll probably want a 20 minute break after 300+ miles of non-stop driving.


Sure, but Tesla can’t go anywhere near 300 miles on a charge. And most charging stations are not super chargers, either.

The article did a good job of illustrating how electric vehicles - as built today - are not a good solution for the majority of the population by any means. As such, they are little more than an interesting toy.

In the near or distant future, if someone finds a source of abundant, cheap unobtainium and it’s a much better battery material, then maybe the whole equation changes. But that’s only a pipe dream now.


118 posted on 07/25/2017 11:52:49 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII
In the near or distant future, if someone finds a source of abundant, cheap unobtainium and it’s a much better battery material, then maybe the whole equation changes.

"1.21 Gigawatts!"

119 posted on 07/25/2017 11:58:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: webstersII

Gas powered cars had the same limits at one point.
EVs have improved a great deal in a short time, and won’t suddenly stop improving.
“New thing X isn’t perfect yet, therefore it irredeemably sucks” is a lousy argument.


120 posted on 07/25/2017 12:23:37 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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