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COULD THE PLAGUE OF RECENT GUN CRIMES BE OBAMA'S FAST AND FURIOUS PART 2?

Posted on 07/07/2017 2:18:24 PM PDT by cradle of freedom

It seems that there has been a plague of gun violence by inner city youths. It is not just in Chicago or other large cities but even in smaller communities. How can these kids afford guns which cost hundreds of dollars? How are they getting them since it is illegal for them to purchase them? I know that they use "straw buyers" who do not have criminal records to purchase the guns for them. It appears that they often use girl friends or female relatives to actually buy the guns for them. However I think that there is more than this going on. Remember how Obama said that he wanted an army even bigger than the US army? What did he mean by that?

Maybe before leaving office he did a "fast and furious" on American crime, spreading guns all over the country to street criminals. Say that he purchased thousands of guns and had them sold or even given out free to street thugs through out the country as his "legacy".


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KEYWORDS: fastandfurious; guns
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1 posted on 07/07/2017 2:18:25 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom

“Maybe before leaving office he did a “fast and furious” on American crime, spreading guns all over the country to street criminals. Say that he purchased thousands of guns and had them sold or even given out free to street thugs through out the country as his “legacy”.”

So if that indeed did happen, where did this “large volume of guns” come from? You have to have a stock in order to implement this sort of criminal act. Personally, as much as I hate Obama, I doubt very much that he did any thing of the sort you are suggesting.


2 posted on 07/07/2017 2:22:20 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

Could he get them from the military or could he have used federal money to purchase foreign guns?


3 posted on 07/07/2017 2:25:03 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom

I doubt it. That strategery would work a lot better when you knew you were going to have Congress and the Presidency for at least a couple years. So Newtown, sure. Plus, general violence isn’t nearly so much of a Rahmbo crisis as a high profile mass shooting.


4 posted on 07/07/2017 2:26:23 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: vette6387
WRONG. You don't know the EVILS of the Soros/0dunga/Hillary global cabal.

These are a combo of stolen firearms + federally confiscated firearms redistributed to inner city thugs.

5 posted on 07/07/2017 2:26:37 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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To: cradle of freedom
How can these kids afford guns which cost hundreds of dollars?

They steal them, just like they've always done.

Here in Jacksonville, the police are begging people to STOP leaving loaded guns in their unlocked cars parked outside over night.

Seriously.

They buy them. They get other people to buy them. They trade stolen goods for them, food stamps, cash. In the ghetto there is an underground economy where you can get anything you want that us white people from the 'burbs don't care to understand.

Not sure why Obama would want to flood the 'hood with guns so black males could keep killing each other. That wasn't what F&F was about.

6 posted on 07/07/2017 2:32:12 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: cradle of freedom

Semi autos can be had on the south and west sides of Chiraq for $200.00. Stolen gun sales is a big business there


7 posted on 07/07/2017 2:32:38 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: cradle of freedom

“Could he get them from the military or could he have used federal money to purchase foreign guns?”

That would have to be a very broad-based conspiracy in order to get it past everyone in the food chain. I see no evidence being presented that the guns used in inner city shootings have any direct connection to weaponry in general use by out military. I mean you can’t get a ready supply of “Saturday night specials” from your local Armory.


8 posted on 07/07/2017 2:33:00 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: CivilWarBrewing; null and void; KC_Lion; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; TWhiteBear; WildHighlander57; ..

Article and # 5.

9 posted on 07/07/2017 2:34:56 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: CivilWarBrewing

“WRONG. You don’t know the EVILS of the Soros/0dunga/Hillary global cabal.
These are a combo of stolen firearms + federally confiscated firearms redistributed to inner city thugs.”

I do understand where Soros & Co. are coming from. I’d just like to see some hard evidence, like we saw with F&F, that the FedGov was directly involved. And just what are “federally confiscated firearms,” what are they specifically and what are the volumes they supposedly have? I know that stolen firearms find their way into the hands of criminals, but that doesn’t involve the government as near as I can tell.


10 posted on 07/07/2017 2:37:19 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: cradle of freedom

There is no shortage of funds gained from the sale of illegal drugs, prostitution(child trafficking) and illegal gambling. Firearms have always been a commodity for trade on the black market. The demoralization of society itself is the source of funding for most if not all of the chaos.


11 posted on 07/07/2017 2:38:17 PM PDT by infool7 (The ugly Truth is just a big lie.)
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To: LucyT
Those guns will show up in all kinds of places for many years to come.

Law Enforcement Sources: Gun Used in Paris Terrorist Attacks Came from Phoenix (Fast & Furious)

12 posted on 07/07/2017 2:39:53 PM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: cradle of freedom

What “plague”?

What’s a “Gun Crime”?

Don’t promote Left Wing meme as legitimate terms of Language.

You know, like the terms “Assault Rifle” and “Gun Show Loophole”.


13 posted on 07/07/2017 2:42:30 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Crimes committed by ILLEGAL OWNERS of guns.


14 posted on 07/07/2017 2:49:14 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom

In all fairness, guns are cheap and easy. They are ubiquitous, everywhere, and have been for a long time.

So where do inner city gang bangers get them? The answer to that is their motivation to get them. They will do *anything* to get them, because without a gun they are helpless, and they know it. With a gun they at least have a chance.

Right now, in London, guns are hard to get, and extra expensive, so everyone on the street has to carry illegal knives. And they do, because they *have* to.

It’s market forces.


15 posted on 07/07/2017 3:05:15 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Baizuo" A derogatory term the Chinese are using to describe America's naive "White Left")
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To: vette6387

Lotsa firearms are confiscated by federal agencies, mostly in FBI/DEA/ATF drug/weapons smuggling busts. Who knows where these firearms end up, let alone the marijuana, heroin and cocaine.


16 posted on 07/07/2017 3:05:38 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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“Who knows where these firearms end up”

Well, we surely should know where they “end up!”


17 posted on 07/07/2017 3:09:13 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: cradle of freedom

What happened to the weapons and ammo he bought for multiple federal agencies with no need for guns?


18 posted on 07/07/2017 3:24:59 PM PDT by dangerdoc (disgruntled)
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To: cradle of freedom

You’ll have to bring me a little more evidence than pure supposition.


19 posted on 07/07/2017 3:28:25 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: cradle of freedom

The democrats are releasing over 40,000 criminals from prison and this is going on thru out the country. Paid riots, fake outrage and fake votes paid by the democrats. It would not surprise me they are handing out guns.


20 posted on 07/07/2017 3:36:28 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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