Posted on 06/26/2017 6:46:06 AM PDT by Trump20162020
How is it not good? If the Supreme Court refused, the baker would have automatically lost (the baker lost in lower courts).
{We Reserve The Right to Refuse Service To Anyone}
That died in 1964 when the Civil Rights Act was passed. And that is why some conservatives opposed the Civil Rights Act.
“More specifically, Goldwater had problems with title II and title VII of the 1964 bill. He felt that constitutionally the federal government had no legal right to interfere in who people hired, fired; or to whom they sold their products, goods and services. He felt that “power” laid in the various states, and with the people.”
https://freedomsjournalinstitute.org/uncategorized/urban-legend-goldwater-against-civil-rights/
I have said from the beginning, that if a Christian baker can be forced to bake a sodomite cake.
Then a black magazine should be required to run ads for the KKK.
That is a great analogy. I had one like it, but have long since forgotten it. Getting old sucks.
I would like to use that quote.
This years term ends this week. Are they already announcing what they will hear come October?
An Islamic magazine should be required to run ads promoting Christianity
Thanks!
There seems to be an illusion that a seller is obligated to sell to any customer, while the customer is free to buy or not to buy, and to choose whom to buy from.
Yet, when you see a transaction for what it is - a trade between two equal individuals, exchanging something of value for something of value - it becomes apparent that both parties have the right to choose whether or not to enter into the bargain.
I sure hope the Supreme Court gets this right, for it is the very heart of free enterprise.
The Klan is not a protected class.
I don’t understand how the SC can possibly force anyone to do anything against their beliefs and individual rights.
That just seems primary to the 1st A.
Yes, it’s Colorado.
Weird, as I know someone said Mississippi on TV.
Then a black magazine should be required to run ads for the KKK.
The Klan is not a protected class.
True.
The whole concept of a ‘protected class’ needs to be defined or rejected by the SC, and this case may do just that.
Oh government is doing a good job of putting paid to that element of economic freedom as well.
I wish we could go back to that. Require that if a business wants to be selective as to clientele then they have to post a sign saying "We don't serve gays" or "We don't serve Muslims" or whatever group they don't want to deal with. Then let the market sort it out.
We'll see. When religious freedom collides with the right not to be discriminated against then religious freedom has been losing. Maybe this will reverse it.
Or a Jewish print shop being required to produce flyers for Nazi’s.
This MUST be framed in terms of free speech and coerced speech. This IS discrimination - but against an EVENT not the PERSON. Between forced servitude and coerced speech this is requiring you to put your labor toward an EVENT with which you have a conscientious objection to. It is part of being able to live according to your beliefs.
If a baker won’t sell a ready-made cake on the shelf to somebody because they’re gay that is one thing, it is entirely another when you’re requiring somebody to enter into a contract to create something for an event they don’t agree with. This is NOT discrimination against a person but an event.
Unless this perspective is argued, that it is more of a free speech issue than religious freedom, the point is lost. The argument will otherwise be that religious beliefs don’t trump discriminating against a person. That is not the point.
Yes, there should be no ‘protected class’. Equal before the law is the only protection that counts, & is no longer the rule in our courts.
And a "magazine" is not a "public accommodation" within the meaning of Title II of the Civil Rights Act.
Gorsuch will be included in this panel. If Kennedy retires, all the better.
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