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Georgia 6th special election Live Thread

Posted on 06/20/2017 3:26:46 PM PDT by Conserv

eagerly awaiting results, input, comments, predictions.... and ultimately #WINNING!!


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: 115th; election; ga2017; ga6; georgia; handel; jonossoff; karenhandel; livethread; osshole; ossoff; pjboi; tossoff; winning
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To: entropy12

Please. You are arguing with one who would vote for Handle also. If my opinion about her is in error, I happily stand corrected. Hope she is a huge Trumpster.


1,241 posted on 06/20/2017 8:25:04 PM PDT by amihow (.size)
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To: Enchante
You really think the material world is real?

In the sense that Descarte was demonstrating: yes I think so.

1,242 posted on 06/20/2017 8:27:15 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: odawg
They said that natural born required two citizens parents.

Doubtful. Considering that "mothers" are never mentioned, but "fathers" are, in both the 1790 and the 1795 laws, and the texts that are not founding documents but are frequently cited by the proponents of the two-citizen-parents claim also say "fathers" but never "mothers and fathers". And I do not know of a single person that has two fathers. Not even these days. Clearly the plural indicates the singular father of each of multiple children.

Also, throughout our history, that was taught.

Now, that's laughable. You claim that this was taught when women were still not even full citizens and their citizenship was derived either through their father or their husband, but not on their own qualifications? Right.

Just ask anyone who went to school when American history was taught.

And when would that be? I'm pretty sure it was still being taught when I was in school. And we actually had to read stuff, too!

Just because it is not defined in the Constitution is laughable. There are plenty of legal terms in the Constitution that are not defined. “Natural born” is a legal term used at that time. Frozen into the Constitution. Cannot be taken out by any acts of Congress.

And it is not given a legal definition in the Constitution, therefore its dictionary definition is the legal definition. For "natural-born" and any other term that does not have a legal definition provided. Standard jurisprudence. The term first appears in the 1580s and means "having a quality or attribute from birth". It never took on any other meaning until long after the Constitution.

There is a particular Freeper on site who has listed all the Supreme Court decisions that stipulate that natural born refers to two citizen parents.

The claim that "having two citizen parents and being born in the United States certainly makes one a natural-born citizen" but any other set of circumstances precludes it is simply nonsense. That's like taking "beagles are canines" to mean that German Shepherds aren't. That's just a combination of confirmation bias and poor reading skills. If you review those SCOTUS cases you will find that the definitions used in those rulings are inclusive rather than exclusive - Beagles are "certainly" canines and German Shepherds may, in fact, be canines, too!

1,243 posted on 06/20/2017 8:27:38 PM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: LS

Still a good call.


1,244 posted on 06/20/2017 8:28:39 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Gideon7

OMG how sweet. Thanks for sharing, I don’t have the stomach to visit HuffPo myself; I’m afraid of cooties!


1,245 posted on 06/20/2017 8:29:52 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: HokieMom

If that’s not a verbal equivalent of the Julius Caesar stabbing, I don’t know what is!

MAGA


1,246 posted on 06/20/2017 8:30:55 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017,,,The end of an error.)
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To: Parley Baer

“After he out spent is opponent 6 or 7 to 1.”

Excellent observation. If the Rats lose by 6 points but outspend the Republicans 6 to 1, it does not bode well for the Rats in most parts of the country.

Also, one needs to be careful about comparing this election results to others. How strong was the Republican candidate? The Rat candidate? How did each party do in GOTV?


1,247 posted on 06/20/2017 8:31:49 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: amihow

“Hope she is a huge Trumpster.”

She sure is now...during her victory speech, as soon as she thanked President Trump, the room exploded with ..Trump, Trump, Trump....she looked like the deer in the headlights.
She might have won anyway, but I have no doubt it was Trump voters that turned out today and sealed her win.

Tonight was big for President Trump and the GOPers up for reelection in 2018 better think twice before they run a campaign like Handell who wouldn’t align herself with the President’s agenda until the last week.

She should consider herself very lucky for the WH support she got.


1,248 posted on 06/20/2017 8:33:01 PM PDT by MaxistheBest (...)
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To: JayGalt

The “conservatives” over at National Review aren’t taking this much better.


1,249 posted on 06/20/2017 8:33:14 PM PDT by digger48
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To: calenel

I think the reason they didn’t put in a two parent requirement was because at that time the wife took her husband’s citizenship at marriage and was irrelevant in determining citizenship of her children.


1,250 posted on 06/20/2017 8:33:20 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: jennychase

FU CNN losers!

Stupid doesn’t even come close to how they look.

PATHETIC!!!


1,251 posted on 06/20/2017 8:35:18 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: HokieMom

Lol


1,252 posted on 06/20/2017 8:39:23 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Alas Babylon!
I was watching the glum losers on CNN for a while.....Crying Nattering Nobodies !!!

Leni

1,253 posted on 06/20/2017 8:43:15 PM PDT by MinuteGal (GO TRUMP !!!.....GO PENCE !!!.....GO USA !!!)
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1,254 posted on 06/20/2017 8:44:47 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Jim Noble

Yup


1,255 posted on 06/20/2017 8:44:57 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: Conserv
Absolute The Best Win! So HAPPY!
#MAGA Love Our Under The Radar Wins!
Media Predicts, But We The PEOPLE VOTE!
The Liberals are so messed up! YaY!
Good Day!
1,256 posted on 06/20/2017 8:45:14 PM PDT by djstex (The REAL News of The Day ... Trump is Our President EVERYDAY! :))
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To: MinuteGal

“I was watching the glum losers on CNN for a while.”

Ya...Don Lemmon was trying to say...”but look, the Dem only lost in SC by 2,000 points.” Well Don , it was 2,800 votes and the margin was the same as Georgia ...4.5 percent...SC had much less voters in play.

Hate CNN.


1,257 posted on 06/20/2017 8:46:55 PM PDT by MaxistheBest (...)
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To: digger48

It’s good for them. I hope they get regular doses of sunshine like this.


1,258 posted on 06/20/2017 8:52:11 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: HokieMom

Love, love, love that! LOL!


1,259 posted on 06/20/2017 8:56:07 PM PDT by luvie (Our troops are the best of the best and we should honor them EVERY day!)
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To: MaxistheBest
Hate CNN.

From here to eternity, CNN is now dubbed, forever more, I mean absolutely Forever the Fake News Propaganda Communist News Network.

The DNC, Beltway, CPUSA, Deep State mouthpiece. Nothing more, nothing less. Defeat the communists!

1,260 posted on 06/20/2017 8:57:26 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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