Posted on 06/17/2017 12:47:34 AM PDT by blueplum
Well then you’re out on a limb by yourself then, as far as I know. I appreciate the time to discuss, and do hope you are correct that Trump and his team are out front and control of this, despite his seemingly frantic tweets of late.
There are a few others on FR who have expresssed the same view I have.
-- ... despite his seemingly frantic tweets of late. --
Art of War. He has the press expending tremendous energy against decoys, is the way I see it. And much to the frustration of the majority of Trump supporters, he isn't expending energy against the press narrative. Not much at any rate.
When your boss disses you in public and tells you to straighten up or he will take care of it for you..you are not on solid footing.
You can block an exit in an innocent fashion wanting to talk..or a threatening blocking of an exit. I hope there were several witnesses..and not just the females that say they felt threatened..if this story about bannon is true.
The FBI belongs to the executive branch, the president has unlimited authority to end or alter any investigation he he sees fit. That is why he is elected, unlike the employees of the FBI.
Robert Mueller is wasting his time and our tax payer dollars if he is investigating Trump himself rather than his employees. If he has reason beyond his friendship with the former FBI director. He should hand off his evidence or reasoning for an investigation to congress.
Only Congress can investigate the president himself just as only congress can impeach the president if they find reason to do so.
It is not appropriate for the FBI to investigate their own boss because nobody could trust their results.
Unfortunately for Robert Muller if he wants to follow an investigation on the flint matter he will be wasting a large number of resources just to slap someone already fired for related reasons on the wrist.
I would call that grossly irresponsible missuses of Government funds. Flynn was already Punished by Trump, and Trump should have ordered the investigation into him ended to save FBI resources. But he let the FBI director do his own thing, while expressing his opinion.
The only thing congress should do is scold trump and the FBI director for letting valuable FBI agents wast there time looking into such a trival matter when we got Islamic terrorist, and leftist extremist running around the country.
Maybe pass a law to mandate such behavior in the future.
That is the only real issue with regard to the Flinn matter. Maybe if the agents FBI director James had investigating Flynn just to slap him on the wrisk were looking into leftist radicals we wouldn’t the House Majority Wip in critical condition right now.
Trump should have told James that your priority is terrorism not investigations into minor offences.
The FBI belongs to the executive branch, the president has unlimited authority to end or alter any investigation he he sees fit. That is why he is elected, unlike the employees of the FBI.
Robert Mueller is wasting his time and our tax payer dollars if he is investigating Trump himself rather than his employees. If he has reason beyond his friendship with the former FBI director. He should hand off his evidence or reasoning for an investigation to congress.
Only Congress can investigate the president himself just as only congress can impeach the president if they find reason to do so.
It is not appropriate for the FBI to investigate their own boss because nobody could trust their results.
Unfortunately for Robert Muller if he wants to follow an investigation on the flint matter he will be wasting a large number of resources just to slap someone already fired for related reasons on the wrist.
I would call that grossly irresponsible missuses of Government funds. Flynn was already Punished by Trump, and Trump should have ordered the investigation into him ended to save FBI resources. But he let the FBI director do his own thing, while expressing his opinion.
The only thing congress should do is scold trump and the FBI director for letting valuable FBI agents wast there time looking into such a trival matter when we got Islamic terrorist, and leftist extremist running around the country.
Maybe pass a law to mandate such behavior in the future.
That is the only real issue with regard to the Flinn matter. Maybe if the agents FBI director James had investigating Flynn just to slap him on the wrisk were looking into leftist radicals we wouldn’t the House Majority Wip in critical condition right now.
Trump should have told James that your priority is terrorism not investigations into minor offences.
“””Mueller faces ‘unique hurdles’ if he wants to press obstruction case against Trump”””
What? Like make shit up?
he didn't suggest it. The ambassador apparently suggested a one-off call, in what can only be viewed as a joking manner. But really, the entire story was made up, unless the FB INC wants to admit they unmasked an American citizen, again, while eavesdropping on the ambassador.
Except he didn't say it in that context or with that wording. That is wording the press made up out of whole cloth.
Nope. You dont know who said what. No one is going on the record to say kushner didnt say it...unless you have a new link that I missed. Fox had a report from one unnamed source claiming ambassador spy suggested it.
It is clear that ambassador spy was caught making the claim to moscow.Sigint has been burned by this leak.
We dont know who really said what in the meeting..probably because both kushner and flynn have no idea if any or all peeps were recording.
Btw..revealing what ambassador spy said was a significant burn of intelligence gathering processes.
So what remains is finding proof of who said what during that meeting
Flynn immunity would get that info
I’m going on what the WH said: “They generally discussed the relationship and it made sense to establish a line of communication,” White House spokeswoman Hope Hicks confirmed to the New York Times
and the Fox article you mentioned (retweeted by Trump): http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/29/jared-kushner-didnt-suggest-russian-communications-channel-in-meeting-source-says.html
Jared unmasked for a fake news story is even more ‘dangerous’ than revealing the story of surveillance itself.
I have said from very beginning that releasing this info is serious.
unmasking kushner was legal..and frankly necessary given what ambassador spy was saying. Revealing intercepted coms to public so that russia knows is prosecutable.
Establishing a covert channel using a russian scif is not and should not be acceptable for a lot of reasons..including it gives russians blackmail material.
We wouldnt allow it . I doubt russia would have allowed it.
It also goes to show that ambassador spy was likely telling truth to moscow. WH is trying to paint picture that what was suggested is perfectly normal..which tells me kushner did it..not ambassador spy
Unmasking Jared was NOT legal (FISA court order please), and releasing his name to the press is super-not legal. And I see no problem with Jared or the doorman at Trump Tower assuring the Russian ambassador that yes, the US is anxious to work with Russia on several fronts, including Syria, and it’s a shame the current political atmosphere has turned everything Russia into kryptonite. “We would like to find a level of cooperation on various topics” is a standard I don’t know you yet nicety assurance given to every country’s ambassador.
Additionally, any ambassador would be aware that their communications were probably bugged and Kislyak is no fool. He has personal couriers with personal diplomatic pouches flying first class to Moscow. He’s not going to spoil an opportunity to get off to a fresh start with the US (to the benefit of Russia’s economy of course - Putin has elections coming up and he’s looking to get his embassies back) by turning the heat up on Trump by phoning something he would be fully aware would be overheard and would work to immediately prevent even the most cursory exchange. It’s illogical.
If Trump is retweeting the Fox story as accurate, I’m taking Trump’s version all day long as the more logical, and therefore, truthful, of the two arguments.
Flynn has two potential problems:
1) Something about timely lobbyist filing - the responsible department routinely accepts late filings and is almost never policed - I don't see a big deal here considering that department's lackadaisical history - which is provable.
Flynn halted a Syrian strike 10 days before Trump was sworn in, (Rice asked him for the go-ahead, mind you), but it's quite the stretch to say he acted unilaterally or in the interest of Turkey doing so, or that his Turkey lobbying contract was a payoff. Delaying the strike until preparations were more coordinated was a smart move and saved lives. Not to mention Yates ran to the WH to say Flynn could be compromised, not by our ally Turkey, but by Russia (although she never quite explained how).
2) He may or may not have a personal and/or corporate tax issue. File an amended return on what he was paid, pay the late filing fine and go to the movies. We're talking $10K here to him personally (and a company contract with our ally, Turkey). He's not going to jail for that unless the IRS has gone bat-hanging crazy.
Neither warrant ‘immunity’ on any level. He's completely immaterial to anything unless there's something else going on?
like this: https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3561994/posts?page=19#19
Note: Spicer was on his way out, kaput, finished. Today it is reported he is promoted. I believe nothing the press prints on Trump’s inner circle.
The hurdle is called “hard evidence”?
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