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Can You Obstruct a Fraud?
National Review ^ | June 15, 2017 | ANDREW C. MCCARTHY

Posted on 06/16/2017 5:31:03 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Maybe Trump objected to the fraudulent notion, which Comey led the world to believe, that Trump was under investigation for collusion.

On March 30, 2017, by his own account, then-FBI director James Comey told President Donald Trump that Trump himself was not under investigation — the third time he had given him that assurance. In fact, Comey told Trump that he had just assured members of Congress that Trump was not a suspect under investigation.

Think about that.

This was fully six weeks after the then-director’s Oval Office meeting with the president, during which Comey alleges that Trump told him, “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go.” Flynn, of course, is Michael Flynn, the close Trump campaign adviser and original Trump national-security adviser, whom Trump, with pained reluctance, had fired just the day before.

Interesting thing about that. Most of the time, when public officials obstruct an investigation, there is a certain obsessiveness about it. Because, in the usual situation, the official has been paid off, or the official is worried that the subject of the investigation will inculpate the official if the investigation is allowed to continue. There is great pressure on the official to get the case shut down.

But not Trump, he of the notoriously short attention span.

Trump was feeling remorse over Flynn. What he told Comey, in substance, was that Flynn had been through enough. A combat veteran who had served the country with distinction for over 30 years, and who had not done anything wrong by speaking with the Russian ambassador as part of the Trump transition, Flynn had just been cashiered in humiliating fashion. The one who had done the cashiering was Trump, and he was still upset about it.

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1 posted on 06/16/2017 5:31:03 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Fire Rosenstein.

Then use an interim DAG to fire Mueller.

Move on.


2 posted on 06/16/2017 5:37:36 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: reaganaut1

It’s a new charge and for the left it’s a capital offense:

obstructing injustice.


3 posted on 06/16/2017 5:42:22 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: reaganaut1

:: But not Trump, he of the notoriously short attention span ::

Yeah...right.
That’s why DJT is a BILLIONAIRE (that with a ‘B’). And you, Mr. McArthy, are just another journalist trying to make a living schlepping your dregs at Nat’l R’view.

To quote Foghorn Leghorn: “Go away, boy. You bother me.”


4 posted on 06/16/2017 5:42:48 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: reaganaut1

There are times when a leader has to make a decision that he does not like, in Trump’s case having to fire Flynn. Being compassionate, he fired the man for the “deed”, why then destroy him further as it serves no purpose. Had Hitlary been the leader, Flynn’s life would have been in grave danger.


5 posted on 06/16/2017 5:43:07 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: ptsal

I’m so sick of this.


6 posted on 06/16/2017 6:00:53 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Rudy Guiuliani for Head of FBI)
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To: edwinland

Suspect is under obligation to answer truthfully or exercise his Fifth Amendment Right against self incrimination.

Police are NOT similarly obliged and can reply deceitfully (lie) in the course of their investigation.

Search StartPage::
“court ruling police can lie during investigation”

http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-rights/faqs-police-interrogations.html


7 posted on 06/16/2017 6:01:54 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: reaganaut1

EVERYONE is Afraid of CORRUPT COMEY and CORRUPT Mueller....and Rosenstein is looking CORRUPT also, or maybe just because he’s a LEFTIST! They ALL need to be FIRED!


8 posted on 06/16/2017 6:04:45 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: edwinland

It’s even more ridiculous than that. The charge is: “Attempting to Obstruct Injustice.”


9 posted on 06/16/2017 6:12:16 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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Robert Mueller expands special counsel office, hires 13 lawyers

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-lawyers/index.html

It’s a slow-motion coup.

Step 1: Create a false drumbeat in the MSM that the Trump campaign conspired with Russian agents to hack the computers of DNC or Podesta or others and that Intel Agencies are very concerned about it. (So concerned the FBI doesn’t even bother to examine the hacked computers)

Part 2: Get Sessions to recuse himself from any investigation into Russian hacking because Sessions was part of the Trump campaign. (Unnecessary recusal, because there was never evidence upon which to commence a criminal investigation of the Trump campaign, but Sessions wanted to take the ultra high road)

Part 3: After Sessions’ recusal, his deputy Rosenstein, a former Obama-appointed US Attorney, appoints Special Counsel Mueller to look for “links” between people involved in the Trump campaign and Russia. Two problems with this: 1) Rosenstein was not a part of the Trump campaign, and therefore could himself have overseen this without the need for a Special Counsel and 2) a ‘link’ with Russia is not a crime, but a Special Counsel may only be appointed under the regs for a criminal investigation - not merely to look for ‘links’ with a foreign country.

Step 4. The Special Counsel leaks that the focus of their investigation is on Trump himself for obstruction, in order to protect himself from being terminated by Trump

Step 5. The Special Counsel hires an army of lawyers and begins a fishing expedition of Trump, his businesses, and his advisors and associates. They start by raising an imaginary claim of money laundering to hide an imaginary bribe from Russia to pay them for the imaginary conspiracy to hack the computers. This is to claim a basis for looking at banking and financial transactions by Trump and his associates.

Trump should terminate the Special Counsel. Rosenstein should be fired for appointing a Special Counsel in violation of the regs, which required stating the crime to be investigated, but here there was none. It was a pure fishing expedition in order to turn up a crime on Trump or his associates which they had no idea of beforehand.

Trump should say to the Congress, you investigate me if you think I have committed crimes. But I will not have an unaccountable shadow Executive Branch operated by a Special Counsel in a manner never contemplated by the Constitution.


10 posted on 06/16/2017 6:18:45 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Meet the New Boss

So was Comey running a Sting operation against a duly elected POTUS?


11 posted on 06/16/2017 6:59:07 AM PDT by MGG
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I would call it a fishing expedition more than a sting.

Comey and the Obama intel chiefs were running a fishing expedition on Trump and his associates from at least the summer of 2016.

They were using our national security spying apparatus to keep tabs on Trump, hoping to turn up some crime before the election. According to press reports, Susan Rice was getting spy reports detailing the daily activities of Trump people. They never did turn up evidence of a crime, although they seem to have Flynn on a charge of not filing the proper form to register as a lobbyist or agent for the government of Turkey.

If caught, they would say we saw “contacts” between Trump and Russia justifying the spying on Trump. (Of course, there are “contacts” between the Russians (and Chinese, etc) and everyone in Washington who deals with foreign affairs.)

The fishing expedition continued after the election. After the election, the situation is we have Trump appointees at each agency sitting at the top of a mountain of Obama/Clinton supporters.

Personally, I don’t think it was a sting in that I don’t think Comey was baiting Trump to fire him. I think Comey was surprised Trump fired him.

Trump didn’t really understand the power of the DOJ/FBI or he would have fired Comey on the afternoon of the inauguration and had an entire slate of new senior DOJ people and senior FBI people teed up and ready to go to from work during the transition.


12 posted on 06/16/2017 7:22:42 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: reaganaut1

Obama tried to sway Iraqis on Bush deal

At the same time the Bush administration was negotiating a still elusive agreement to keep the U.S. military in Iraq, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama tried to convince Iraqi leaders in private conversations that the president shouldn’t be allowed to enact the deal without congressional approval.

Read more: http://www.headlineoftheday.com/2017/06/15/obama-tried-to-sway-iraqis-on-bush-deal/#ixzz4kB3Dk197


13 posted on 06/16/2017 7:53:40 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Meet the New Boss
Thank you for that. Unfortunately a special council never exonerates people. They dig and dig until the find, going everywhere and anywhere they want. Jarred Kushners business dealings, is not out of range.

Louis Gohmert said this morning in a radio interview, that when Mueller was head of the FBI, he raided William Jeffersons congressional offices without a warrant, and ransacked the place. Jefferson being the congressman who was found with $90,000 cash in his freezer.

Gohmert said, for 200 years there had been a clear line of separation of powers that congress leader must be contacted first, they find the pertinent material FBI wants and is turned over, police, FBI apparently are not allowed in congressional offices raiding them.

14 posted on 06/16/2017 9:39:28 AM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: Meet the New Boss

what you say is all true. I would opt for a co-counsel Rudy Guiliani.


15 posted on 06/16/2017 9:46:27 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (снова сделаем Ам)
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To: MGG
"So was Comey running a Sting operation against a duly elected POTUS?"

Comey acted like a spy and a snitch. Imagine having an advisor supposedly working for you like Comey...ready to pounce at any time. I believe I read that his cell phone was turned into an always on recording device by the FBI.

16 posted on 06/16/2017 10:22:53 AM PDT by armourenthusiast (Trumperific)
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To: ptsal

Force Mueller to recuse


17 posted on 06/16/2017 1:54:37 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: ptsal

Force Mueller to recuse


18 posted on 06/16/2017 1:54:38 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: ptsal

Force Mueller to recuse


19 posted on 06/16/2017 1:54:40 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Sorry my phone apparently has hiccups


20 posted on 06/16/2017 2:03:23 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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