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So What Happened In That Puerto Rican Statehood Vote? (Does a 23% Turnout tell us anything?)
Hotair ^ | 06/12/2017 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 06/12/2017 9:42:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

I clearly didn’t anticipate just how lopsided the vote in Puerto Rico’s referendum was going to wind up being yesterday. When the polls closed, headlines began showing up in social media calling it a “landslide” in favor of abandoning the island’s territorial status and taking their place as the USA’s 51st state. And at least in terms of the percentages involved it wasn’t even close. (Associated Press)

Puerto Rico’s governor is vowing to turn the U.S. territory into the 51st state after statehood won in a non-binding referendum hit by a boycott and low turnout that raised questions about the vote’s legitimacy…

More than half a million people voted for statehood during Sunday’s referendum, followed by nearly 7,800 votes for free association/independence and more than 6,800 votes for the current territorial status. Voter turnout was just 23 percent.

It was the lowest level of participation in any election in Puerto Rico since 1967, noted Carlos Vargas Ramos, an associate with the Center for Puerto Rican Studies at Hunter College in New York. He told The Associated Press that even among voters who supported statehood, turnout was lower this year compared with the previous referendum in 2012.

So… 97%. Yes, that’s a landslide no matter what definition you choose to employ. When I wrote about this referendum yesterday morning I was foolish enough to think that the most recent polls might be predictive of the result. A majority favored statehood, but as usual it was a relatively slender majority. And among those who favored statehood it wasn’t a terribly enthusiastic endorsement. There was also talk of a boycott of the election among those who favored either keeping things the way they are now or going for full independence. But there’s always talk of a boycott, right? Nobody ever takes it seriously.

So much for that idea. Less than a quarter of the registered voters showed up and they were almost entirely those pushing for statehood. So what happens now? The island’s governor, Ricardo Rossello, thinks he knows.

The United States of America will have to obey the will of our people!” Rossello yelled to a crowd clutching U.S. flags and dancing to a tropical jingle that promoted statehood.

Sorry to disappoint you, Governor, but that’s not actually the case. The decision is up to Washington and things don’t look good for statehood any time soon. There are two elements to the hurdle Puerto Rico is facing and it comes down to practicalities and politics. On the practicality side, as we discussed yesterday, taking on Puerto Rico as a state right now won’t be popular because they’re on the verge of bankruptcy. The move would saddle the rest of the country with yet another huge debt we don’t need at the moment.

And then there’s the politics. Even if the territory was flush with cash and ready to further bolster the economy, the GOP is in charge of both chambers of Congress and the Oval Office. Puerto Rico runs heavily Democratic in terms of political preferences and bringing them in as a full state would pretty much automatically mean two more Democratic senators and another slug of five seats in the house. And, of course, that would give them seven electoral votes in the next presidential election, almost certainly going to the Democratic candidate. Do you really think that the GOP is going to give a hearty thumbs up to that plan?

Let’s just say I wouldn’t hold my breath. Statehood may be coming for Puerto Rico, but I’d wager that they’re going to need to straighten out their financial mess first and then make a new push if and when the Democrats are next in control of Washington. Until then the non-binding referendum will probably remain very heavy on the “non-binding” part.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: puertorico; statehood
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1 posted on 06/12/2017 9:42:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

They should be cut loose. Let them be independent.


2 posted on 06/12/2017 9:43:23 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: SeekAndFind

They want the bailout.

Geez we dont need a third world craphole as the 51st state.


3 posted on 06/12/2017 9:49:45 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It shows that the majority of the people don’t want a change in their current status.


4 posted on 06/12/2017 9:53:02 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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We do not need New New Mexico


5 posted on 06/12/2017 9:53:15 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Nor do we need 2 more democrat senators year after year. They want a bailout. We don’t want to pay. Independence is what is fair. Like kicking your 22 year old child out of the basement.


6 posted on 06/12/2017 9:54:22 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: GreyFriar
It shows that the majority of the people don’t want a change in their current status.

Right, 97% shows that. I don't want Puerto Rico as a state either, but what you and this referendum's detractors are trying to pull by arguing turnout is transparent, desperate spin.

The GOP won big in the 2014 midterms, which had a record-low 36.4% turnout. Does that show the majority wanted Democrats? If you don't vote, your opinion doesn't matter.

7 posted on 06/12/2017 9:56:03 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, it tells us that 77% don’t give a Sh!t!.................


8 posted on 06/12/2017 9:59:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Unless you eat The Bread of Life, you are toast!.......................)
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To: Cowboy Bob

What do the bring to the USA that we need?
Cut ‘em loose.


9 posted on 06/12/2017 10:00:39 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The last thing we need is this bunch of socialists!!!


10 posted on 06/12/2017 10:05:44 AM PDT by ontap
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To: SeekAndFind

The irony is that, apart from representation in Congress, Puerto Rico’s current status is great for its citizens. Lots of US government benefits without the same tax burden. Its a testimony to how badly the politicians in Puerto Rico screwed everything up over the past 20 or 30 years for them to be in the position they are in now. They had it made and still screwed it up. Both becoming a state and independence will result in a lot of pain for the Commonwealth.


11 posted on 06/12/2017 10:10:59 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SeekAndFind

We acquired Puerto Rico as part of the settlement of the Spanish American war. Can we just give it back, say we don’t want it anymore???

PR is far poorer than the poorest states. It is culturally and linguistically different from the rest of America. How do the rest of us benefit from it being a state??

And what of other overseas possessions, such as Guam or American Samoa, or the Virgin Islands? Should they also become states?? Why would PR be a state but not other overseas American territories??


12 posted on 06/12/2017 10:11:13 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind

The Uniparty wants them to be the 51st state.
Part of it is the fact that they are Spanish-speaking as they try to import more Spanish-speaking people into our country to make us a bilingual nation.


13 posted on 06/12/2017 10:28:09 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The United States of America will have to obey the will of our people!”
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No, we don’t.


14 posted on 06/12/2017 10:29:05 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind

Puerto Rico is just another stone around our necks. We should take what we need there by way of defense facilities ( like we have in Cuba) and cut this passel of turds loose. We don’t need them as “citizens” because they are a net negative to our country. Rent a Naval Base or two from them and let them spin in the wind. We went there years ago for a national sales meeting (to try something different that Hawaii). Boy what a letdown! The place is a dump by comparison and Hawaii isn’t the paradise it used to be. The comparison was stark!


15 posted on 06/12/2017 10:29:31 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: dsrtsage

Puerto Rico in actuality would be FAR WORSE than New Mexico or Mississippi even. Eight new liberal congressman, two new liberal senators...think the Castro brothers (either the Texans or Cubans) to imagine how bad these folks would be. If they needed federal money why did they close down Roosevelt Roads?


16 posted on 06/12/2017 10:30:39 AM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: GreyFriar

I think that’s the answer.
23 percent turnout...not many care to change.

Those that want to be US have moved to the mainland...


17 posted on 06/12/2017 10:30:54 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Red Badger

“Yeah, it tells us that 77% don’t give a Sh!t!.................”

The truth of the matter is that they are too stupid to give a $hit!


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19 posted on 06/12/2017 10:34:35 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: SeekAndFind

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