Posted on 05/24/2017 1:06:36 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments
It took school and police officials just a few minutes to extinguish 16-year-old Corey Walgren's promising future. All they did was utter two words: child pornography.
Corey, a junior at Naperville North High School in Naperville, Illinois, was a perfectly normal, social, good-looking 16-year-old. He was an honor roll student with dreams of attending a Big Ten college. He had typical interests for a teenager boy: hockey, fishing, and, yes, girls.
Corey committed suicide in January, just hours after a school resource officer confronted him about an alleged illegal item on his cell phone—a recording of Corey having sex with a female classmate. The girl had informed a dean at the school that she believed Corey had played the recording for his friends (it's not clear whether he did), which prompted the authorities to summon Corey to the principal's office. They called his mother and told both of them that Corey was being investigated for possession of child pornography.
Corey left the meeting, headed to a nearby parking garage, and jumped.
That's all according to a heartbreaking story in The Chicago Tribune, which obtained police records of the case and spoke with Corey's parents about his death.
"I think they wanted to scare him straight," Corey's mother, Maureen Walgren, told the Tribune. "Instead, they scared him to death."
(Excerpt) Read more at reason.com ...
“And the idea of charging a child with child porn for sharing a video of himself and his same-age girlfriend is ludicrous.”
Consider the ramifications. Were we to decide this is ludicrous, that’s how child porn would become rampant. Get a minor to do it and you’ve got it. No penalties.
You can convince them with money, or power, or drugs, or you can force them in some way or another.
And voila, legal child porn.
Do you peoople ever stop? Ever?
Otherwise, she broke no law.
Moron.
That's what you truly are!
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times we have had kids that had been physically and
sexually abused and, in turn, have become abusers
themselves so the subject of kids and sex issues
is not foreign to me.
The story doesn’t say that this kid was abused or an abuser. This isn’t a “sex issue”. It’s just a case of boyfriend and girlfriend using technology during sex. The law turns that into a “sex issue”. I can’t see where your experience overcomes the reality of the law.
Neither should be in serious legal trouble.
But, he would still be branded a sex offender for life even if he only got probation
if that is true, then the true ass in this sad tale is the law...
corey was a juvenile and thus not subject to adult charges.
If he were dealin, he’d be let go as a first offender
Now that’s silly Bishop. You know the answer to that strained question. And he would no doubt be tried and convicted as an adult. What was even the point of that question?
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A fellow Freeper made the comment that “Kids are kids and should not be charged with child porn”. All I did was provide an example to the contrary.
I know here in Pa.they were working on the law.We had a few schools involved with this.They hammer it into the kids not to do it.We have 4 teens in the family and 2 more in a few months.I see them everyday.You sit them down and have the talk.I don’t care if everyone is doing it and yes someone can take a picture of your nude off of snapchat.
Yes, it is an assumption based on what is revealed in the article. It comes from understanding human nature and what it is to be a young boy. It does state that they weren’t sure if he showed it to anyone else or not. However, if he didn’t actively show it, this only leaves five other options to why this came to a head, three bad, and the other two unlikely:
1.) Bad: He bragged to his friends he had it and didn’t show it, word got out. To me, this is nearly as bad as showing it.
2.) Bad: It was a consensual recording, she knew he had it, and was afraid he was going to show it because he said he would or was blackmailing her and she told school or her parents.
3.) Bad: School officials, the girl, or some other kid had his phone and saw it, and word got out.
4.) Unlikely: The girl did not know of the recording, and he confessed or showed it to her and she went to authorities.
5.) Unlikely: He was watching it and someone else saw him watching it and went to authorities.
In any case, the most obvious scenario (and as a result, usually most likely) is that the recording was likely consensual (I imagine it would take some maneuvering to have a non-consensual recording with a cell phone, but it is possible) and he showed it to someone, and word got out.
I am not trying to indict the kid, it is pretty clear he was guilty of recording it and having it on his phone. I sympathize with him for his lack of common sense and decency (in recording it in the first place) both of which can be bypassed by a young boy awash in hormones.
Agreed. It was awkward enough as a young boy just trying to think about how to make an advance towards a girl you were attracted to, and simply dealing with the rejection or embarrassment at a fumbled approach.
Now, you can be accused of sexual harassment if you didn’t proffer some kind of agreement in advance that could be signed, and even then...is the contract binding, blah blah blah.
Back in the day, two kids caught in a sexual tryst would result in the boy and girl being brought home individually by the parents and given a good talking to, or even taken to the figurative woodshed.
Now, you end up in front of someone who wears a uniform and badge, confronting you with something that has all the trappings of a formal legal process. It seems crazy and Orwellian to me.
My use of the word “subject” is key here. Child porn
is certainly connected to sexual abuse and that can’t be
denied. As to the law, when it comes to criminal records
and youthful offenders, things vary from state to state.
I also agree that the law turns this particular incident
into a sex issue. I may be a victim of my generation but
the boy should have his ass kicked. Keep your ‘bidnizz’
to yourself especially if you might want a do over sometime.
Things have changed........for the worse. And I bet
this kids pals have similar stuff on their phones.
That’s the fundamental problem. Things that used to be fixed with a good ass-kicking now require the law and long-term punishment and “the permanent record”. It’s why we have a nation of snowflakes and the idea that everything is ok until the cops show up.
More fallout from the 19th amendment ...
The article does not say he sent anything out. The article said the girl believed Corey showed it to friends.
The girl is in the clear, she did not commit a felony.
On the other hand, Corey apparently had the video on his phone and distributed the video to the public.
Had he not killed himself, Corey would have been in deep trouble, the very least of which would have been to register as a sex offender.
Thank you. Seems like even most FReepers think kids belong to the school and the police. The parents are an afterthought.
Adults used to make sure that teens and even the unmarried had very little opportunity to be alone together. Girls were not included in the sports spending simply because boys needed to use up all their energy on something besides sex. We’ve forgotten or outlawed all the methods the culture used to ensure strong marriages and families.
I saw that thread on FR the other day about most people agreeing that “12 sex partners” per person was about right. That’s just the loneliest thing ever.
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