Cut The Crap - Islamic Terrorism

Market-Ticker ^ | May 25, 2017 | Karl Denninger

[Wolfie]

Cut The Crap -- Islamic Terrorism

There is this ugly and pervasive "political" view that Islamic Terrorism is some "new thing." It usually comes with some line of crap about how we've "created" these monsters by invading their nations and displacing "their" people, and that "we" (the western world generally) are responsible.

This is a bald lie.

Islamic terrorism dates back centuries. It was a problem in the form of piracy and slavery in the early days of our Republic -- long before we had a military that could invade anything. The "big lie" is proved again in the present by these people attacking nations that have formally eschewed any sort of association or funding for any sort of "military adventurism." Yet they get blown up and shot just the same.

The root of the problem is not complicated. Their very "holy book" proclaims that one who is not Muslim has, in fact, three and only three choices: Slavery, conversion or death.

In the United States we have Freedom of Speech. It's written into our Constitution and in fact is the first freedom guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. In "muslim" nations blasphemy is typically a serious crime. It is one thing to look askance at someone who says "God doesn't exist"; it is quite another to throw them in prison.

Similarly "slandering a prophet" is frequently a crime. It is a fact that Islam's "holiest" prophet took children as his wives, and yes, that's plural. Leave polygamy out of it for there are arguments for that if you're trying to "be fruitful and multiply"; nobody in the modern world believes that marrying a child is acceptable and yet to merely speak critically of such behavior with regard to certain people in these nations is a criminal offense.

Our so-called "muslim nation partners", including Saudi Arabia, criminalize homosexuality. It is a criminal offense for which one can be imprisoned for years or even killed. Some of these nations also practice female genital mutilation: they cut off the clitoris of young girls so as to deny them sexual pleasure at any time in their life.

It is true that the majority of the victims of islamic terror are in fact muslims. That's because there are two "branches" or "sects" of Islam and they hate each other with a white-hot passion. This more than occasionally has led to wars and various forms of terrorism over the millennia. Is it any surprise that such terrorism often hits muslims when there are two branches that hate one another with enough passion to kill?

You can look through the Bible of both Christian faiths and the Old Testament of same (commonly known as the Pentateuch) which is functionally the same as the Jewish Torah, and find various demands for ostracism given certain behaviors or worse. If you're unfamiliar with where to find such prohibitions and declarations of punishment look in Leviticus 20 for starters -- there's a nice list there. But those faiths grew up over time and with damn few exceptions none make argument for actual execution or imprisonment for same in the modern world.

Muslims have refused to grow up, in short.

They've only had 1,000 or so years to do so and have continually refused including state-level actors such as Saudi Arabia while time and technology have marched on and replaced spears, sailing ships, cannon and longbows with modern firearms, howitzers, missiles, chemical, biological and nuclear weapons and more. The religiously insane are no longer limited to taking lives one at a time; they can now put together concoctions and wear them into a stadium, murdering dozens. It is only a matter of time before some of these nutjobs come up with enough fissile material and sufficient ability to fashion a crude nuclear device at which point you can be assured they will use it.

At what point do a civilized people demand that this madness stop? And with what force are we willing to demand that it does? I argue the time has long passed to say "enough damnit" and put forward the premise that if you support this ideology -- not just with money but with your judicial system in any form or fashion then civilized people are done with all who hold such views and all of their enablers.

Let's bring this into the present and our current multi-billion dollar technology companies.

Neither Twitter or Facebook will ban a user for espousing that someone who insults a prophet or religion, specifically in relationship to Islam should be KILLED. Even a fairly-specific threat to murder a specific person if that someone doesn't "stop" maligning a religious practice or belief does not cross their lines.

Folks, if you are making possible the continued operation of these firms by your presence and use of them then you are contributing, in a real and present sense, to the spreading of this hate and the religious ideology that it is acceptable to kill persons who disagree with a given view of a particular religion or religious person.

This makes YOU PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE in part for what just happened in Manchester; you made possible the recruiting, you made possible the gloating and you make possible here, now and today the communication channels that these people use to churn themselves and others into the frothy madness that then results in the murder of innocent people by suicide bombers.

You further this activity by being on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter by providing them with the market capitalization and advertising revenue that they rely on to exist.

Facebook and Twitter, among others, have decided that selling advertising targeted at savages who threaten to murder those they disagree with is more important then your life and you personally and continually approve of that decision by being part of their "user base" -- which is all they have to sell to the advertisers that make their operation as businesses possible. They could instantly banhammer anyone who levels such a personalized threat but they refuse and you allow them to continue to refuse by funding their madness right alongside the islamic nutjobs.

Deal with it because those concert-goers blood is on your hands.

And yeah, this means that's now my message and purpose for being on both. To make sure people understand that they are fomenting and furthering terrorism since these firms will not remove the accounts of those who express such threats.

I have personal experience with this when I ran my ISP (MCSNet) in the form of a different but somewhat-related "ethnic difference." I had users from one "side" on my system -- who were welcome despite having "very strong" views and expressing them regularly -- right up until they posted an actual threat to commit a violent unlawful act. Then they were done -- no second chances, no maybes, no ifs ands or buts. Done, baked, account gone, terminated, finished. Period. Yes, this meant that I never again got a nickel from anyone "on that side" of the "debate." That's the choice when it comes down to it: You either do the right thing or you sell yourself and your users for blood.

No, this doesn't mean we should bomb all these people back into the stone age -- until and unless they bomb or shoot at us.

But it does mean that civilized people must hold social media and realted firms accountable in full for their continued provision of tools and technology used to foment violence and froth these nutjobs into a state of mind where they will murder either individually or en-masse with a vest full of homemade explosives. Those firms who refuse to immediately cancel accounts for blatant threats that inherently disrespect our very First Freedom must be driven from the marketplace of free ideas and markets.

Further, on a national level it does mean no trade with those nations that refuse to act on this same principle -- period. No deals. No immigration or "refugees." No visitors, no ships, no nothing leaves their airspace or borders and I don't give a damn how much money you have or who's ass -- or hand -- you kiss. We burn any bonds they bought in the past on the South lawn in a ceremony of peace. In a world in which a "simple" ship full of alleged goods could instead have a makeshift nuke in the cargo hold, any land vehicle can be packed with explosives and any aircraft can (and some have) be carrying a bomb that kills all on board and perhaps many on the ground there simply is no argument remaining for allowing any passage of material or persons across the borders of such "nations" onto the land and airspace of civilized people.

While we should and in fact must not seek war, if those who refuse to respect human rights at the most-base levels want war then we'll give them war. But they should be warned -- someone who has declared they will murder simply because someone prays the wrong way, insults a prophet or eats a ham sandwich has declared that they lack the capacity for critical thought and thus has become inimical to humanity as a whole. Since they not only threaten to blow up or shoot anyone who disagrees they've repeatedly demonstrated they mean it if they demonstrate that they cannot be persuaded otherwise through peaceful means via direct and hostile action the choice of either "shoot them now or let them shoot us later" looks pretty obvious from my point of view.

[Jim W N]

Between the Quran and Sharia Law, the doctrine of Islam is satanic, confused, and psychotic teaching their followers mass murder, extermination of the Jews, and death to anyone who is not a follower of Islam.

Islam is first a deadly political system. Secondarily, Islam is a religion of death.

You meet deadly force with deadly force and you meet resolve with greater resolve. We defeat Islam with a greater resolve and determination to restore America’s free constitutional republic. Satanic and oppressive Sharia Law is patently unconstitutional and, therefore, has NO place in the U.S. at all. The same with the Quran which teaches mass murder and extermination.

[BipolarBob]

The MSM said it wasn't Islamic terrorism (that's harsh!). It was simply a message.

/s

[Perseverando]

Islamic terrorism?

They call it jihad. We call it genocide.

[Lurkinanloomin]

Islam has been at war with the rest of humanity since 622 A.D.

Muslims are commanded by their prophet in their “holy” books to continue the jihad until there is only Islam.

The only choice civilized people have is to extirpate Islam from our societies.

It is completely incompatible with civilization and has no interest in coexistence.

Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace

[Mr. K]

This is getting nuts- Facebook has to have a competitor

FreeRepublic has been doing essentially the same thing for a decade BEFORE Facebook existed; too bad JimRob isn’t the multi-gazillionaire (but hey- at least he didn’t ‘sell out to the man’)

[servantboy777]

>>There is this ugly and pervasive “political” view that Islamic Terrorism is some “new thing.”<<

Correct me If I am mistaken, but didn't the U.S. Marines get their nickname “Leatherneck” because of Islamic terrorist many moons ago pirating ships off the Barbary coast. The marines put leathers collars around their necks to keep from having their heads severed from their bodies.

So, seems the muzzies been up to no good for centuries.

[NorthMountain]

There is no "radical islam". There is no "islamic terrorism".

Islam IS radicalism. Islam IS terrorism. Islam IS tyranny.

We must destroy islam.

[BlueLancer]

"No, this doesn't mean we should bomb all these people back into the stone age..."

200 years from now, I want their children's children's children
to cower and cringe in fear whenever they hear the sounds of jet engines overhead
because their legends tell of fire from the sky.

I want them to hide in dark caves and holes in the earth,
shivering with terror whenever they hear the roar of diesel engines
because the tales of their ancestors talk about metal monsters
crawling over the earth, spitting death and destruction.

I want their mothers to be able to admonish them with
"If you don't behave, the Pale Destroyers will come for you",
and that will be enough to reduce them to quivering obedience.

I want the annihilation to be so complete that their mythology
will tell them of the day of judgment when the stern gods from across the sea
.. the powerful 'Mericans .. destroyed their forefathers' wickedness.

(Original created by BlueLancer ... 13 September 2001)

[chief lee runamok]

It seems, in some bizarre, otherworldly sense, that the liberal progressive leaders throughout the world, have become enablers of this savage, barbaric religion.

[NorthMountain]

You close that with a nuclear mushroom cloud.

I believe that will be literally necessary. I believe we will, before this is over, have to explode nuclear weapons on Mecca and Medina.

[BlueLancer]

It’s the only way to be sure ...

[SMARTY]

“...we’ve “created” these monsters by invading their nations and displacing “their” people, and that “we” (the western world generally) are responsible.”

Right-as if...they HAVEN’T been systematically wasting one another for centuries!!!

[NorthMountain]

It certainly got the Japs’ attention, back in ‘45.

[SpaceBar]

All this talk about islam being the enemy is rubbish. Islam is just behaving as it has for centuries. Nothing out of character or unusual. People know that some snakes and spiders for example can kill you, so you don’t handle them, and anyone that does and dies was not exercising adequate precautions given the known dangers.

The real enemy right now are the criminal governments that have basically turned off national immune systems, and have made it illegal to fight back.

More guns, bombs, and fighter jets isn’t the answer. The answer is to fully surround, isolate, and contain islam. Remove it from civil society. But that simply can never be done with psychotics occupying positions of authority in the west.

[Dick Bachert]

“If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet deprecate agitation are men who want crops without plowing the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the roar of its mighty waters.

The struggle may be a moral one or it may be a physical one, or it may both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never has and it never will. Find out just what a people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.” Frederick Douglass

BOTTOM LINE: EVIL, IN ALL ITS FORMS, MUST BE RESISTED BOTH IDEOLOGICALLY AND BY “AGITATION” (in the instant case, WAR)!
The alternative is submission.
The ARABIC word for submission is — ready? — ISLAM!

And to those of you who respond that Douglass was talking about SLAVERY, SO AM I!

Its name is ISLAM!!

[KingofZion]

Countdown to Mecca, by Michael Savage. Personally I think he got the ending wrong.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

An old political cartoon from the Dark Ages still reflects Europe's attitude today. Just replace the swastika, hammer and sickle with the islamic moon and isis flag.

[353FMG]

“Their very “holy book” proclaims that one who is not Muslim has, in fact, three and only three choices: Slavery, conversion or death.”

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Unless Islam is willing to redefine Koranic teaching, they will always be ostracized by the rest of the world’s nations. Why muslim nations are still seated in the UN is a mystery to me — they do not belong there. They ruled the world for a short time while they were the main oil supplier to the world, but those days are permanently over.

Hey muzzies, join the world and behave, or be left behind for good.

[Jim W N]

Long ago, scripture said about these, “And he [Ishmael and his descendants] will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him” (Genesis 16:12). Scripture also points to the end-time increase of these be-headers in a worldwide bloodbath. Those of us who know Jesus will be taken out of here before it all comes down.