Posted on 05/11/2017 9:58:32 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
20 years of medicinal product growing was at much smaller scale than this corporate agro farming concept.
Seems doubtful, as it's widely reported - on FR and elsewhere - that CA medical pot has been so laxly regulated as to be a legalization in all but name. Have any evidence for your suspect claim?
"California generated $2.7 billion in medical-cannabis sales in 2015" - https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/01/01/californias-gigantic-medical-marijuana-industry-co.aspx
“Have any evidence for your suspect claim?”
Other than press out of Oregon and Northern California, some drug wars in Tennessee and Kentucky, Indiana and the mid west mess, other nickel and dime operations get hit by gangs etc.... highway truck jackings on I-81 up through Virginia, requests by senators looking for additional funding to combat trafficking on interstate corridors going up the Eastern seaboard; no.
But then again, this is uncharted territory. With 40 something other states looking for resource. Supply and demand and all of that pesky side action. Human nature, greed etc...
Prohibition was a countrywide re-legalization of alcohol by constitutional amendment. A few states legalizing MJ does not a prohibition make. What is created with only a few states relaxing some control, are nefarious groups who will seek to fill the demand of those users residing states which have not or will not relax code & statute.
Will the Fed step up or not in the foreseeable future?
Seems doubtful, as it's widely reported - on FR and elsewhere - that CA medical pot has been so laxly regulated as to be a legalization in all but name. Have any evidence for your suspect claim?
You seem to have provided "evidence" for a suspect claim other than "medicinal product growing was at much smaller scale". But let's go ahead and look at this "evidence":
Other than press out of Oregon and Northern California,
What's that press say?
some drug wars in Tennessee and Kentucky, Indiana and the mid west mess,
No legalization there, so no possible support for your claims about what will happen under legalization.
other nickel and dime operations get hit by gangs etc....
Be a little more vague, could you?
highway truck jackings on I-81 up through Virginia,
I-81 doesn't run through any states that have legalized, so again no possible support for your claims about what will happen under legalization.
requests by senators looking for additional funding to combat trafficking on interstate corridors going up the Eastern seaboard; no.
And you'd have us believe that these senators are concerned about trafficking because they want to prevent pot robberies?
But then again, this is uncharted territory. With 40 something other states looking for resource.
If by "resouce" you mean pot: all 50 states have been supplied with pot before there were any legal growers to rob, and it will remain the case that targets of theft offer resistance while dirt offers no resistance to seeds.
Supply and demand and all of that pesky side action. Human nature, greed etc...
Nobody said legal pot growers alone among Americans would be immune to thieves - just that there's no sound reason to expect "countless" instances of pot-theft gunplay.
Prohibition was a countrywide re-legalization of alcohol by constitutional amendment.
Opposite - what you just described is the END of Prohibition, which was also begun with an amendment unlike federal pot prohibition.
A few states legalizing MJ does not a prohibition make. What is created with only a few states relaxing some control, are nefarious groups who will seek to fill the demand of those users residing states which have not or will not relax code & statute.
News flash: such groups existed before any state had legalized.
Will the Fed step up or not in the foreseeable future?
"Step up" to do what exactly? Continue to exceed their Constitutional authority by meddling in intrastate commerce in pot?
“Opposite - what you just described is the END of Prohibition, which was also begun with an amendment unlike federal pot prohibition.”
Which is exactly what I didn’t mean to say when I somehow mysteriously left out the word “end” in the beginning of that freaking sentence.
So... I completely blew my argument and surrender, but am not convinced. Nor can. I wrap my arms around conceptualizing anything less than unending strife for these corporate farms. Watching billions of untaxed, unregulated, state sanctioned controlled substances being produced openly is far and removed from simple decriminalization.
I understand completely the points you are articulating and I’m not in disagreement. But I do not think the federal government is going to simply give it a pass. Nor do I think the criminal element is going to let opportunity pass them by.
They are both taxed and regulated (although not by the feds).
I do not think the federal government is going to simply give it a pass.
They have so far - and AG Sessions has said that the COle memorandum under which this has happened is "not too far from good law."
Nor do I think the criminal element is going to let opportunity pass them by.
Like I said: Nobody said legal pot growers alone among Americans would be immune to thieves - just that there's no sound reason to expect "countless" instances of pot-theft gunplay.
In Oregon you can grow your own, up to 6 plants IIRC.
The prohibitionists are much more useless and annoying than the users.
States rights, simple.
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