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Here's why some immigrant activists say not even criminals should be deported
The Los Angeles Times ^ | May 6, 2017 | Andrea Castillo

Posted on 05/08/2017 8:06:39 AM PDT by walford

...For activists like Pablo Alvarado, executive director of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, deportation even of convicted criminals ends up sowing chaos in places with weaker criminal justice systems such as Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador. And that, he said, causes more people there, including victims of crime, to flee those countries.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: illegalalien
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Returning a criminal to his native El Salvador does not make that country a US penal colony. :rolleyes:

Another argument could be made that the status quo -- which the Left is obligated to defend -- makes it so the US acts as a political/economic safety valve, militating against any reforms that would otherwise result from pressure from an oppressed, impoverished and disenfranchised citizenry.

If your country is a basket case, fix it. Bringing your problems to my country only imports them here, while leaving your native land as it is.

Illegal immigration only benefits the elites on both sides of the border. Everyone else suffers.

1 posted on 05/08/2017 8:06:40 AM PDT by walford
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To: walford

With those type of criminals here, I want to flee. However, where can I go?


2 posted on 05/08/2017 8:13:43 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: walford

The El Salvadoran criminal is the product and thus the problem of his home country. You cannot continue exporting your debris to the United States as though we were Australia in it’s early days as a Penal Colony.
My vote for a penal colony would be GITMO. Fill it up!
One thing I would do is to rotate the staff every two years, so that they don’t get worn down, homesick and inattentive.


3 posted on 05/08/2017 8:14:15 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: walford

Yeah, Pablo? Maybe you should “activist” yourself in those countries.


4 posted on 05/08/2017 8:16:02 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: walford
And that, he said, causes more people there, including victims of crime, to flee those countries.

LOL. So he's really looking out for us. He wants to curb immigration. LOL.

5 posted on 05/08/2017 8:16:33 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: lee martell

That’s a good point. In reality under the status quo, the United States is the dumping ground for criminals, terrorists, and parasites from around the world.


6 posted on 05/08/2017 8:16:58 AM PDT by walford (https://www.facebook.com/wralford)
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To: lee martell

Speaking of GITMO I hope Trump starts ADDING TO IT, not closing it


7 posted on 05/08/2017 8:17:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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Their argument seems to be that Central America can’t help but produce criminals.

Probably true. And all the more reason to clean out their nests here and close the border permanently .


8 posted on 05/08/2017 8:18:26 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Even a criminal immigrant can get married have children and help turn this country into a Democrat stronghold. That is the real reason they want to keep anyone from being deported.


9 posted on 05/08/2017 8:18:55 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: walford

Simple...First deport the immigrant activists.


10 posted on 05/08/2017 8:19:12 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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“...the ones who are working and don’t do anything,” Alvarez said.”

An accurate description of about 50% of the illegal alien employees I’ve seen.


11 posted on 05/08/2017 8:22:46 AM PDT by moehoward
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Not only that, but as they rape and slaughter us, those of us who are accustomed to freedom and prosperity are replaced by those who are dependent upon government — and come from places where questioning authority can be hazardous to one’s health.

Ideal citizens for the Party of Jim Crow.


12 posted on 05/08/2017 8:23:09 AM PDT by walford (https://www.facebook.com/wralford)
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Say, I have a possible solution for this “problem!”

Every time we deport a criminal illegal alien, book two seats on the plane (or bus). One for the criminal alien and one for the “immigration activist” who wants us to keep him. Would that work?


13 posted on 05/08/2017 8:28:57 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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Criminals no one wants? Execute them. Good riddance to murderers, rapists, etc.


14 posted on 05/08/2017 8:30:00 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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I’m fine with summary execution as an alternative.

/half sarc


15 posted on 05/08/2017 8:31:30 AM PDT by MortMan (Children are blessings, no matter how God brings them into your life.)
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To: walford

Returning criminals to their home countries is not an efficient a solution. It has been shown over and over and over again that they just come back within a short period of time. Establishing a penal colony in some nasty part of the world would probably be a better solution. If criminals knew there was a good chance that they would spend their remaining days in some awful place instead of just a free ride back home they might think twice before returning here.

The Russians still have vast icy lands in Siberia with little hope of escape. They also have a long record of not being soft on criminals. There are also hot desert locations on the “dark continent” of Africa which criminals would probably also not be appealing to the criminal element. We could have some of these countries earn their foreign aide by maintaining camps full of international criminals. We would have to do something to counter the rampant corruption that takes place in most of these countries so that the criminals couldn’t just buy their way out, but I am sure that solutions could be found.

My point is that an less expensive and more miserable incarceration scheme needs to be found for these criminals. It should involve exporting them to a location a long way from our shores where they can be kept on ice... or in the desert indefinitely.


16 posted on 05/08/2017 8:33:59 AM PDT by fireman15
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RE:”Angelica Salas, executive director of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles, believes all deportations should be suspended until the immigration system is reformed.
“We’re deporting people without a single penny to their name into abject poverty or homelessness, many of them back to places they haven’t known,” she said. “These people are products of our society.”

They don't have a single penny to their name?
Caught committing crimes here?

What benefit do we get from them being here?

17 posted on 05/08/2017 8:51:39 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Trump "Mexico will pay for the Wall! Mark my words")
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To: sickoflibs

Indeed, I thought illegal aliens are supposed to be a net gain for America.

Apparently the Left knows otherwise and now wants to just guilt-trip Americans into accepting illegal aliens — including violent criminals — even though they know deep down this is a net loss for us on every level.


18 posted on 05/08/2017 9:09:49 AM PDT by walford (https://www.facebook.com/wralford)
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I almost agree. We should build walls around the sancuary cities and send the criminal illegals there. Then when there is no one left inside the walls we declare those areas to be national monuments to stupidity.


19 posted on 05/08/2017 10:02:39 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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Why doesn’t El Salvador just immediately execute those criminals when they are returned?

This would solve the problem for everyone.


20 posted on 05/08/2017 10:20:52 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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