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Liberal Thought Police Getting Scarier
Townhall.com ^ | April 28, 2017 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 04/28/2017 5:08:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

The totalitarian left is emboldened by its selective suppression of speech. Just as scary is the deluded thought process that inspires its Stalinism.

Recognizing its inability to compete in the marketplace of ideas, the left has been chipping away for years at the concept of free speech. You have to give leftists points for cleverness, not to mention persistence, because they don't openly advocate censoring conservative speech as such. They pretend to be protecting some greater good or preventing imminent harm to certain groups.

When they failed in talk radio, they resurrected the Fairness Doctrine, which is euphemistically disguised as a policy to ensure the presentation of all viewpoints but is actually a sinister ploy to dilute the power of conservative talk. They always have some excuse -- and plausible deniability.

They protest conservative speakers or those easily demonized as conservatives on college campuses, arguing that conservative "hate speech" can lead to violence against certain groups. No one wants violence, so we must muzzle conservative political speech, right?

But it's patently absurd to contend that everyday conservative speech is "hate speech" and that it leads to violence. It is pernicious nonsense. What's worse is that these speech cops don't acknowledge their own hypocrisy in committing violence -- the very harm they claim to be preventing -- to prevent speech that allegedly could lead to violence. Let's just burn some buildings down and smash some skulls in to show just how adamant we are about preventing violence. I wish I were exaggerating.

But the thought control zealots are now coming up with even more bizarre rationalizations to curb competitive speech. In a recent New York Times op-ed, New York University provost Ulrich Baer argues: "The idea of freedom of speech does not mean a blanket permission to say anything anybody thinks. It means balancing the inherent value of a given view with the obligation to ensure that other members of a given community can participate in discourse as fully recognized members of that community. Free-speech protections -- not only but especially in universities, which aim to educate students in how to belong to various communities -- should not mean that someone's humanity, or their right to participate in political speech as political agents, can be freely attacked, demeaned or questioned."

You may consider that to be psychobabble. What would you expect from an academic who describes himself in the same piece as "a scholar of literature, history and politics"? But I digress.

Let's try to decipher what he's saying. To do so, we must understand that like so many leftists, Baer cannot avoid viewing these matters through the grid of identity politics; everything must be evaluated in terms of how it affects minorities or historically oppressed groups.

Even though one could define unfettered freedom of expression as "guaranteeing the robust debate from which the truth emerges," we shouldn't support it, Baer also says in the piece. Specifically, we shouldn't protect speech that insults whole groups in an effort to discredit and delegitimize them "as less worthy of participation in the public exchange of ideas." He seems to be saying that if you discredit groups of people with your speech, then you unlevel the playing field to the point that any speech these groups express will be less valuable and effective.

We must weigh the "inherent value" of ideas against the dangerous possibility that these ideas could discredit other groups and thereby effectively silence them, he says. Thus, a "pure model of free speech" presents a "clear and present" danger to our democracy.

So the republic is better-served if we allow certain ivory tower elites, with their worldly wisdom, to weigh the "inherent value" of speech to determine whether it should be protected. If it arguably demeans a certain group -- and there are newly defined groups all the time in the left's world -- it is not worthy of protection.

Thus, the liberal thought police can decree that because anything conservative firebrand Ann Coulter would say at Berkeley on immigration or other topics would diminish other groups, it should not be protected. She's a conservative, and conservative ideas don't have much inherent value to liberals and, in their distorted world, also discredit certain groups. Voila! Shut her down. The sophistry is astounding.

I urge you not to miss the most stunning aspect of Baer's specious analysis. The thrust of the left's message against conservatives across the board is that because of our toxic ideas, we should be discredited and delegitimized "as less worthy of participation in the public exchange of ideas."

Just as leftists support the commission of violence in the name of preventing speech that could arguably lead to it, they would muzzle us because through our speech, we would discredit and then effectively muzzle them. Insanity.

We don't want to muzzle liberals; we want to defeat them in the marketplace of ideas. We don't want to commit violence against them, but they often want to do so against us. Boy, how they project.

Let me ask you: In their world, who would decide whether certain speech has inherent value? The federal government, no doubt, provided Democrats are in control at the time. The true acid test of Baer's preposterous arguments would be to ask how liberals would feel if Republicans were allowed to make such decisions while in control of the federal government. How would they feel if a conservative had written this silly, scary op-ed?

It is precisely because we can't have certain self-appointed groups deciding what speech is worthy that we must vigorously protect "robust" political speech in this country. The Founding Fathers knew this, and everyone with common sense understands it. But the crazy modern left wants us to unlearn it -- and leftists call us conservatives a danger to democracy.

Whatever you do, don't casually dismiss Baer's ideas as fringe. This is the way leftists think today -- and they are the people teaching our university students, producing Hollywood movies and largely controlling the mainstream media. Wake up and be vigilant! And fight back!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; antifa; davidlimbaugh; freespeech; radicals; thoughtpolice

1 posted on 04/28/2017 5:08:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

No one has a right to “participate in a community” that advocates anarchy and treason. Sorry.


2 posted on 04/28/2017 5:12:42 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Kaslin

Now corporations like google, facebook etc., are working with the left to silence conservative speech.

I try to avoid youtube when I can. I use full30.com, minds.com, vid.me to try to support a more competitive media distribution platform.


3 posted on 04/28/2017 5:20:11 AM PDT by ThinkingBuddha
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To: ThinkingBuddha

I despise Google and I very seldom go to Facebook and if I check very quickly, even though I have my brother there, and some nieces and nephews besides some friends. 5 minutes is about all I stay there if that long.


4 posted on 04/28/2017 5:30:10 AM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

When/if the left succeeds in eliminating OUR right to free speech, they have won. I expect to see this fight continue until the bastards are driven from our shores completely which we all know, will not happen. (Perhaps eliminating all the professors would be better than doing so to the lawyers.)


5 posted on 04/28/2017 5:31:05 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Kaslin

The ONLY reason to silence opposing views is because your own beliefs are too weak to withstand the comparison.


6 posted on 04/28/2017 5:38:11 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The largest and most dangerous hate-group in the US is now the Democratic Party)
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To: Erik Latranyi

We must absolutely reverse that.


7 posted on 04/28/2017 5:43:14 AM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: Kaslin
Facebook turning its security on "attempts to manipulate civic discourse"

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/apr/27/facebook-report-government-propaganda

8 posted on 04/28/2017 6:05:33 AM PDT by Homer1
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To: Kaslin
We don't want to muzzle liberals

Speak for yourself.

9 posted on 04/28/2017 6:08:55 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: Kaslin

Bookmark for later


10 posted on 04/28/2017 6:30:21 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Kaslin


11 posted on 04/28/2017 6:45:29 AM PDT by Bon mots (Laughing at liberal tears!)
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To: Kaslin

The debate is getting old. Wake me when the shooting starts.

Talking to Marxists is a waste of breath.


12 posted on 04/28/2017 6:57:24 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Kaslin
Check this out:

French Mayor Fined For Mentioning Demographic Changes In Local Schools

13 posted on 04/28/2017 7:03:07 AM PDT by blam
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To: Kaslin

I am so proud of that long blue line of handsome young policemen standing to protect life, limb and property.

I believe they helped and prevented violence.


14 posted on 04/28/2017 7:03:42 AM PDT by YepYep (Build the America you want at your house and keep looking up.)
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To: Kaslin

the left is against the free market ...and that includes the free market place of ideas


15 posted on 04/28/2017 7:44:53 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: blam

Then there is Canada...ask Mark Steyn


16 posted on 04/28/2017 7:48:07 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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To: Kaslin

We knew where these hate speech laws would take us. It was all very predictable, and deliberate. It is not “unintended consequences”. The left is always projecting. It’s sickening.


17 posted on 04/28/2017 8:06:48 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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To: wastoute

Freedom of speech requires no “permission” whatsoever in! Telling that quoted person lets the cat out of the bag, saying it’s educators’ “aim to teach students” how to live in a “given society.”

That’s not their job!!


18 posted on 04/28/2017 10:25:19 AM PDT by subterfuge (Build the damn wall...)
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To: Kaslin
Specifically, we shouldn't protect speech that insults whole groups in an effort to discredit and delegitimize them "as less worthy of participation in the public exchange of ideas."

Such as the one you just made?

19 posted on 04/28/2017 10:40:47 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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