Posted on 04/27/2017 6:26:17 PM PDT by Innovative
The tide is quickly turning against the new ObamaCare repeal legislation. At least 21 Republicans have said they would vote no on the revised GOP healthcare bill negotiated by centrist Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-N.J.) and conservative Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.).
Those "no" votes include Reps. Patrick Meehan (Pa.), Ryan Costello (Pa.), Barbara Comstock (R-Va.), Jaime Herrera Beutler (Wash.) and John Katko (N.Y.), all centrists who had reservations about the previous ObamaCare repeal bill that was pulled from a floor vote last month because of a lack of GOP support.
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If true, I want all of these centrists fired at the next primary.
And I do NOT blame Trump for this crap. I blame these weasels.
And therein lies the rub - like a lot of FReepers, the Repubs claim to be Constitution loving, conservatives but when it comes down to it, they all have their “standards” of what is and isn’t allowable. If they all get together, it will be because of a bill that mirrors ObamaCare because they all have their reasons for being afraid to act in the interests of the People.
I’ve been repeatedly reamed for supporting a third party because they supposedly “won’t do anything”.
So then tell me what the hell your precious GOP has done lately?
With dems who would rather see this country go up in a mushroom cloud than support any Trump initiative and GOPers deathly afraid of their own shadows, it’s hard to envision anything of legislative substance ever getting done.
Maybe it’s just best to let Obamacare self-destruct.
They can’t repeal it if they can’t get the moderate votes to do so.
Like it or not no one is going to get everything that they want. We all are going to have to compromise to get anything at all!
In my opinion failing to get anything is the height of stupidity.
There is huge money backing ObamaCare and the lobbyists have been spreading their money around in DC buying off reps.
Excellent analysis
Who knew you can’t solve a complex problem or address a complex issue with simplistic thinking?!?!?
I’m shocked I tell you, SHOCKED that they can’t get this done.
I’ve been repeatedly reamed for supporting a third party...
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Me as well. In actuality, we have a uniparty so a “third party” would in effect be a two party system.
Its abundantly clear that the GOP stands for nothing except their own reelection. Anyone who thinks they are representing us is delusional.
Very misleading headline, as the bill in question does not repeal Obamacare.
As to “go back to the way things were”, that cannot happen. What existed before has been destroyed, root and branch, and it cannot be recreated.
Obamacare won’t be repealed, because it can’t be repealed - or, more exactly, it can’t be repealed without ushering in huge Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate.
Members of Congress don’t know much, but they can count votes like a pimp in a whorehouse can count money.
Yes, the voters “hate Obamacare and want it repealed”. That is absolutely true.
It’s also true that they want the ability to buy insurance for pre-existing conditions, want insurance companies to be forbidden to cancel policies for non-payment, want zero payment at the point of service, want their adult children who are smoking dope in a dive in Oakland to stay covered, want their States to expand Medicaid without taxes going up, and so on.
In other words, the only two things they hate about Obamacare are paying for it, and the name.
Republicans in Congress understand this perfectly well, which is why there’s no plan.
And, not coincidentally, Obamacare (and Romneycare) were the culmination of fifty years of “reform”, all of which had the purpose of destroying the private sector or making it impossible for the private sector to function, except for boob jobs and a few other things. And, by 2009, the mission was largely accomplished.
Obamacare was merely a temporary mop-up operation, until full nationalization was possible.
And now, it is.
Like Nixon to China, Trump will propose single payer within the year. It’s really the only way out at this point.
And before you accuse me of favoring it, realize that it will destroy a lifetime of work for me. I don’t like it - I hate it.
But it’s coming, because it’s what the voters, bless their pointy little heads, want.
In four years, in the next two elections, Trump and we can remove these obnoxious and dangerous GOPe's.
Who knew you can’t solve a complex problem or address a complex issue with simplistic thinking?!?!? I’m shocked I tell you, SHOCKED that they can’t get this done.
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The GOP had seven years to think about replacing this complex mess. They wanted us to believe the fiction that they would repeal it; it was nothing more than a political stunt by a bunch of disingenuous scoundrels. It was political fraud.
Their excuse for doing nothing now is to complain about the complexity of the problem. If it was so difficult to do then why weren’t they forthright and honest with the voters about it? No, it was too politically convenient for them to mislead people. Anything for reelection.
It was the GOP that capitalized on getting its base to accept simplistic thinking. But they got their seats for a couple more years. That’s all that mattered.
Yes, its a difficult problem but its compounded by the FACT that the GOP has no leadership in congress. And most of the GOP could care less, otherwise they would have replaced Ryan by now.
The only thing they are doing is positioning themselves for an epic political defeat of historical proportions. A defeat that will be “well earned”.
Wong, Scott.
What is the matter with these people?!
Repeal Obamacare immediately, go back to the way things used to be.
Then there is plenty of time to come up with something else.
In a sane world, that is exactly what would be happening.
Unfortunately, we have the likes of Lyin Paul Ryan holding pressers and telling us that American’s want FEDERAL funding to continue for those who cannot afford insurance...and that we want states to expand Medicare coverage.
This fool actually said this - and MANY other socialist themed LIES - just yesterday.
Ryan is doing the Dems bidding and is the poison on Capitol Hill.
We all are going to have to compromise to get anything at all!
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The party that is always ready and quick to capitulate to the Democrats won’t compromise with itself. This is at once ironic and pathetic.
Get rid of the insurance lobby supporting Paul Ryan.
Ryan flubs again.
he has to go.
Sorry, that is incorrect.
The GOP candidates promised REPEAL
The GOP leadership promised REPAIR
Trump promised REPEAL and REPLACE
“The GOP had seven years to think about replacing this complex mess. They wanted us to believe the fiction that they would repeal it; it was nothing more than a political stunt by a bunch of disingenuous scoundrels. It was political fraud.”
And anyone that didn’t realize or understand before now that it was political grandstanding and fraud is either very simple minded, purposefully ignorant, or exceedingly gullible.
“If it was so difficult to do then why weren’t they forthright and honest with the voters about it?”
President Trump said Monday that “nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated,” as Republicans have been slow to unite around a replacement plan for ObamaCare.
“I have to tell you, it’s an unbelievably complex subject,” Trump said after a meeting with conservative governors at the White House.
I am convinced that those who wield power in Washington really have no connection to reality. Almost without exception I find them to be egotistical and smug/condescending to their constituents to the point of being almost unbearable.
I have actually wondered if part of the problem with the republicans in congress trying to actually govern and work on a legislative agenda isn’t just hard feelings over some of the comments that were made during the campaign.
Several of them, including speaker Ryan, got hammered pretty hard during the campaign and I think their ego’s got bruised and they are being intentionally obtuse.
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