Posted on 04/26/2017 7:08:21 PM PDT by blam
SINGAPORE—China's launch of its first homegrown aircraft carrier on Wednesday could be the beginning of a financial train wreck, according to carrier design and construction specialists.
Unless seriously revised, China's plans for its future carrier force could become a major financial difficulty for the country. The resources poured into aircraft carriers are a massive budgetary burden, even in the United States, according to Andrew Marshall, former director of the Pentagon's Office of Net Assessment.
China's first "indigenous" aircraft carrier, assigned the hull number of CV-17, is expected to be named the Shandong and will be slightly larger at 70,000 tons than the CV-16, China's first-ever aircraft carrier.
The CV-17, characterized by the Chinese as a "homegrown" design, is an upgraded version of the Liaoning. The Soviet-built Liaoning, however, was not developed either in China or with China's naval requirements in mind. Ukraine sold the unfinished ship in 1998 to Chinese middlemen "pretending to have no connection to the navy," according to one China military analyst in Washington. "This was done under the ridiculous pretense that the carrier would be tied up at the docks in Macau to become a floating casino painted in battleship grey."
The ship was eventually towed to the Dalian shipyards, where it underwent more than a decade of re-fitting as the People's Liberation Army Navy worked to develop aircraft for carrier-based use.
This new carrier will be "just enough different from the Liaoning that the PLAN will enjoy minimal benefits—if any—and no synergism from having two similarly-designed ships," according to a U.S. aircraft carrier design specialist who spoke to the Washington Free Beacon. The troubles that the Chinese will have with their carrier fleet "are only going to multiply geometrically if they follow through on their previously declared plans for future ships."
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Maybe we’ll see them in a Harbor Freight parking lot sale this summer.
OTH the USA has ONE shipyard that can make CVNs. We have a declining industrial base not capable of making good on our ship losses. Maybe not today but the direction of power is slowly shifting towards the Dragon and away from the Eagle.
Well they tell me there will never be another naval war between large navies. So who cares right?
Now that's how you misuse a metaphor.
The ShanLongDong?
You'll fight with what you have on hand. The war will be over before anyone builds any new ships, IMO.
China’s bridge to future dominance may leave them up the creek without a paddle.
Sink the ‘Dong!
The King Kong Long Dong.
What I don’t understand is why would China attack us their best customer? Who is going to buy all their goods at top dollar?
Not how WWII played out. If things go nuclear then you are right but a long drawn out conventional war there will be massive ship building going on.
This is how we managed to drive the Soviet Union into bankruptcy. We made them believe they had to develop a missile shield defense, so they could “shoot down a missile with another missile”, and they poured so many resources into their version of “Star Wars” they were driven to insolvency.
Let the Chinese try to launch a naval air force. They won’t be able to crank out state-of-the-art vessels at a great enough pace to keep up with losses.
Never interrupt your enemy when they are busy making a mistake.
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Once the ChiComs have the upper hand all of their factory capacity will be used for munition making. Forget that consumer stuff. That is just being done now to de industrialize the USA so it cannot win a war of attrition.
They are not going to do that now. The time is not right. The ChiComs want to corner the world market on industrial production. They have the manpower and they don't give sh!t about CO2. It may take 50 more years but when they have all of the heavy industry that is when they will kick into military overdrive.
They think in terms of centuries.
Hu Flung Dung?
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/g2412/a-global-roundup-of-aircraft-carriers/
A century ago China was a weak democracy that had just thrown off its monarchy. I doubt the rulers then planned for a communist takeover in 1949, followed by a slowly emerging authoritarian capitalist state after the death of Mao.
I was in the Navy and I am very aware of the capabilities of the US surface fleet and CVNs. I would rather have 6 active CVNs and 6 drydocks/shipyards making CVNs than 10 CVNs and only ONE shipyard that can make/repair them. Shipyards and drydocks are the key to naval warfare.
That may be true but long term planning is in their DNA.
Because they do not care about the "economy", they would have their people eat grass if necessary to destroy us.
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