Posted on 04/26/2017 9:39:08 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
The United States will not lift sanctions on Russia until President Vladimir Putin hands Crimea back to Ukraine, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said late Sunday.
During a phone call with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, Tillerson said the sanctions—which have crippled Russia’s economy and pushed down the value of the ruble—will “ remain in place until Russia returns control of the Crimean peninsula to Ukraine.”
He also said that Moscow must honor the ceasefire in eastern Ukraine that was outlined in the Minsk agreements, according to a State Department official.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...
The men ( and women) who profit from enmity between the US and Russia
The Rothchilds...hmmm. Well, don’t forget the lessons of the Elders of Zion book, eh?
That’s never going to happen. So while that may make a nice concise talking point, its just bluster.
Crimea is Russian territory. Historically. I was shocked when they allowed Ukraine to keep at the breakup of the Soviet Union, and I was entirely unsurprised when they took it back. Crimea is Russia. It historically was never Ukraine.
Now, helping Ukraine defend its eastern provinces, that’s a different issue. While they are linguistically Russian, they are historically Ukraine. But Crimea, forget it.
This is a REALLY dumb move on the part of Tillerson. And so, by extension, it is a really dumb move on the part of the Trump administration.
Crimea was part of Russia for centuries. Not just for decades, but for centuries. Then in 1954 Khrushchev - on a whim - assigned the Crimea to the Ukraine.
Russia will not “return” the Crimea to the Ukraine. Just as the U.S. will not “return” Virginia to Great Britain.
So now what? Either Tillerson will have to walk back his threat, or the U.S. and Russia will be in a perpetual state of tension. Both of these possibilities are bad.
Ukraine is a piece of cr** right now and we're funding them. We have to get out of that position. Urkaine is NOT our ally.
This Ukraine vs Russia game will end.
In reality, Russia has the chip marked Crimea. I do believe it rightfully belongs to Russia.
When Crimea was "gifted", it was with conditions.
Indeed they did. And besides that, Russia has owned Crimea since forever. It has always been a part of Russia. Kruschev gave the peninsula to Ukraine (I was told why, but I fail to remember) because he thought the USSR would last forever. Your average Crimean sees themselves as Russian, and likely always will.
Staking out an extreme position.
Art of the deal.
The forcible deportation of the Crimean Tatars from Crimea was ordered by Joseph Stalin as a form of collective punishment under accusations of collaborating with the Nazi occupation regime in Taurida Subdistrict during 1942–1943. The state-organized removal is known as the Sürgünlik in Crimean Tatar. A total of more than 230,000 people were deported, mostly to the Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic. This included the entire ethnic Crimean Tatar population, at the time about a fifth of the total population of the Crimean Peninsula, as well as smaller numbers of ethnic Greeks and Bulgarians. A large number of deportees (more than 100,000 according to a 1960s survey by Crimean Tatar activists) died from starvation or disease as a direct result of deportation. It is considered to be a case of ethnic cleansing.[1][2][3] For a long time Crimean Tatars and Soviet dissidents called for recognition of the genocide of Crimean Tatars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_the_Crimean_Tatars
Some sort of compromise arrangement where Ukraine has an easement through Crimea?
Whatever happen to “I want better relations with Russia”?
Has T-Rex issued any policy statements on China and Tibet?
The Ukraine President, Poroschenko just met with the Belorussian President, Lukashenko. Poroshenko called Minsk and Kiev the axis of good.
So, an interesting note on today’s news.
Must be the kind of elections that reelected Kim Jong Un:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2600426/Kim-Jong-Un-wins-election-leader-North-Korea-rigged-vote-allowed-stand.html
Yes, we really believe the NORKS want him.
And those dispersing Russian propaganda, they don’t even have a free press in Russia. Must think we are gullible to believe what they say. Let’s see, Ukraine is a coup, Russian rebels did not shoot down that airline, false flags in Syria.
Navalny has said Crimea would have another free election if he were elected President, not the mickey mouse Russian election.
Whatever happened to “Russia is fighting ISIS”?
What’s next? The Putinistas supporting the Taliban like Russia is?
(The seemingly obligatory /Sarc)
This sounds kind of weird as stated, but I take it that the “sanctions” were always there from the Bush era.
The circumstances seem to beg for some kind of compromise. Russia has not worn a shiny bright halo, but Bush messed around with Ukraine too. Some kind of treaty over Crimea might make sense, where Ukrainians get rights of free passage but Russia keeps it.
One can forgive without excusing. A point is reached where the tit for tat is thoroughly academic.
Asking too much of a testy, proud Bear could cut off benefit to everybody in the picture.
Nothing changes as long as western democracies continue to "friend" Saudi Arabia.
It all goes back to the mess made of national boundaries after WW1.
Putin’s kisses Erdogan’s boots, it’s nothing more than Russian prop that “oh, look, Putin’s going to teach Erdogan a lesson”, man, are we getting the the Putin propaganda here, next we will hear Russia actually fights ISIS.
If one doesn’t know Putin is meeting pretty periodically with Erdogan, they just don’t know anything, Turkey would be Russia’s biggest ally if and when the US pulls out of our relationship with Turkey.
“Oh boy, Putin’s going to teach Erdogan”, “Oh boy, Putin’s going to show ISIS whose boss”. What a joke.
Russian Doctors Paid Less Than Fast Food Workers
Russian doctors are earning less per hour than the country’s fast food workers, a new report into the Russian healthcare system has revealed.
Experts from the Center for Economic and Political Reforms (CEPR) found that doctors earned 140 ($2.46) rubles per hour, compared to the hourly wage of 146 rubles ($2.57) for a supervisor at global fast food chain McDonald’s.
Paramedics were found to earn an average of 82 ($1.44) rubles an hour, while mid-level health staff received just 72 rubles ($1.27), the RBC news site reported.
Continued: https://themoscowtimes.com/news/russian-doctors-paid-less-than-fast-food-workers-57667
That is from the Russian press too. The people in Russia have it bad, oh, and there are Muslim polygamous marriages and child marriages in Russia as in Chechnya and other parts of Russia are Muslim.
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