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Why We Shouldn’t Punish Mothers Harshly For Abortion Even Though It Is Murder
The Federalist ^ | 04/18/2017 | Z.W.Lucow

Posted on 04/18/2017 6:23:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 04/18/2017 6:23:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I find it interesting that liberals loathe censorship. Except, try to show films of an abortion.

Which brings to mind a basic truth of the multiverse: “If liberals didn’t have double standards, they’d have no standards at all.”


2 posted on 04/18/2017 6:27:07 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind

Every culture practices infanticide in one shape or form. Give it a soft selling name out of focus groups and you get “pro choice”. Along with “products of conception”.


3 posted on 04/18/2017 6:29:14 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: SeekAndFind

Somehow, I’ve never really agonized over this. As I see it, there are two questions here:

1) Is abortion wrong?
2) Should women who abort be punished?

In the wake of Roe v Wade, I only concern myself with Question #1 — I say abortion is wrong, and I want to see abortions end in about 99.9999% of cases. That’s the big thing for me.

Punishing the women? Such an idea pretty obviously gets in the way of the solution to Question #1.

Only the Pro-Abortion people want to obsess over the need to punish women who abort. As a Pro-lifer, I have no interest in it.


4 posted on 04/18/2017 6:29:50 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Abortion is politically correct murder. Socially acceptable (to Leftists) and encouraged by the Left. Their souls will suffer, as do most women who realize what they have done, after the fact.


5 posted on 04/18/2017 6:30:15 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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Ok, don’t put the mother in jail. Since the doctor is doing the scraping, lets put the doctor in jail.
Tell you what, we’ll put the woman and her doctor in a cage and let them fight it out.


6 posted on 04/18/2017 6:31:00 AM PDT by jr3000
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To: SeekAndFind

Try to imagine the mindset of a woman who knowingly kills the unborn human life which is her own conception. A man who knowingly partners with such a woman is a fool and will have a miserable experience.


7 posted on 04/18/2017 6:33:00 AM PDT by allendale
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To: jr3000

> Ok, don’t put the mother in jail. Since the doctor is doing the scraping, lets put the doctor in jail.
> Tell you what, we’ll put the woman and her doctor in a cage and let them fight it out.

What doctor? As far as I’m concerned, the doctor has surrendered his right to be a doctor if he violates his Hippocratic oath.
From the Hippocratic Oath:
“Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course. Similarly I will not give to a woman a pessary to cause abortion.
... Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. Above all, I must not play at God.”


8 posted on 04/18/2017 6:35:39 AM PDT by BuffaloJack ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: SeekAndFind

The amount of guilt depends on how much they really know about what happened and what they were thinking and doing at the time. Thanks to lies the legality of abortion is foggy; the same lies cloud the morality.


9 posted on 04/18/2017 6:38:00 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s no difference between abortion and turning your neighbors in to be sent to a death camp. They’re both legal.


10 posted on 04/18/2017 6:42:34 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve not heard anyone say they want to punish women for abortion. Most people leave that to God. I suppose there are some real zealots out there that want to put these women in jail. I don’t.


11 posted on 04/18/2017 6:42:52 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: SeekAndFind

If they abort the baby, how are they “mothers?”


12 posted on 04/18/2017 6:53:53 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’ll play Devil’s Advocate.

You seem to express a great deal of outrage at abortion. But how wrong can it really be if you don’t want anyone punished at all?


13 posted on 04/18/2017 6:59:46 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Like calories without fat?


14 posted on 04/18/2017 7:04:47 AM PDT by keving (Kevin Gray)
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To: SeekAndFind

How can anyone justify abortion - the killing of one’s own child?

Society needs to elevate the moral values (and return to the values that Jesus Our Lord taught us) that we hold important.

Yes we have good people that follow moral laws, and we have others who do not. Why should people that harm society not be punished?


15 posted on 04/18/2017 7:07:30 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: SeekAndFind

How about punishing the fathers??


16 posted on 04/18/2017 7:13:41 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Bishop_Malachi

Well, you’re putting words in my mouth.

The question is: Should women be put in prison for having an abortion?

My position is: Abortion dies as a political issue if one of the goals is to put women in prison for having an abortion. I want the number of abortions to decrease so I do not want abortion to die as a political issue. So putting women in prison is not something I have any interest in.

You ask: “you don’t want anyone punished at all?” Oh, I want doctors to lose their medical license at a minimum. And prison time for them is a distinct possibility.

Is there a contradiction? I simply don’t care. Murdering children is bad and I want it to stop. Nothing else carries equal weight.


17 posted on 04/18/2017 7:15:54 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: raybbr

Agreed.. this is just picking the scab of a wound. I am most assuredly pro life, but I have spoken to these women. More than 50 percent are being coerced or pressured into the abortion. If they go to jail, then send their baby daddies and other abetting people to jail to. This does not fix the problem. I am calling for everyone to post ultrasounds on Mother’s Day. Ultrasounds have come a long way baby.


18 posted on 04/18/2017 7:17:49 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Gas attacks. Substitute Sadam for Assad and Iraq for Syria? How many American lives do you commit)
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To: SeekAndFind
1 create different definitions
2 create distinctions
3 create a hierarchy
19 posted on 04/18/2017 7:20:00 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: SeekAndFind

This must be one of the ways people compromise with and then eventually turn to the dark side...


20 posted on 04/18/2017 7:23:20 AM PDT by afsnco (18 of 20 in AF JAG)
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