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Stop Congress from trashing Illinois’ concealed gun protections (barf alert)
Chicago S-T ^

Posted on 04/18/2017 5:46:19 AM PDT by rellimpank

The people who think the Second Amendment phrase “well-regulated” means “not regulated at all” are back.

This time, they’re pushing a dangerous idea called “concealed carry reciprocity” that would allow people who get concealed gun carry permits in states that have absolutely no restrictions to carry those hidden, loaded guns anywhere in the country.

That means a state such as Illinois could no longer draw a line and refuse to give concealed carry permits to people convicted of violent misdemeanors, substance abusers, repeat drunken drivers or who have severe mental health issues. Under the U.S. House version of a proposed law being considered in Congress, all those folks could simply get a permit from another state — one with much looser restrictions — sometimes just by mailing away for one. Twelve states require no permit at all.

Moreover, Illinois requires 16 hours of training and a valid Firearms Owner Identification Card before someone can get a concealed carry permit. The training ensures that those who carry hidden guns understand the laws. But why would anyone go through all of that if they could mail away for a permit instead?

(Excerpt) Read more at chicago.suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; chicag18apr2017o; chicago; illinois; rkba
---the usual distortion and lying from the secondary Chiraq garbage wrap---
1 posted on 04/18/2017 5:46:19 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

“Well regulated” has nothing to do with regulations.

Similar to “democrat” and “democratic”. No relationship whatsoever.


2 posted on 04/18/2017 5:49:31 AM PDT by wrench
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To: rellimpank

I hadn’t heard that Steve Stephens was a ccw holder in Ohio. He doesn’t seem the type at all.


3 posted on 04/18/2017 5:59:13 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: rellimpank

“Well-regulated” meant well-drilled, well-armed, and ready to go at all times. The concept of depriving any munition from freemen was ridiculous.


4 posted on 04/18/2017 6:03:24 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: rellimpank
"Moreover, Illinois requires 16 hours of training and a valid Firearms Owner Identification Card before someone can get a concealed carry permit."

16 hours? That's crazy.

5 posted on 04/18/2017 6:10:16 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

It’s 16 hours out of your time and 200 bucks of your money that is entirely unnecessary. I do support training to prove competence with a firearm, but I think that more than 4 or at the outside, 8 hours, is indefensible. All this for a RIGHT.

The Chicago Sum-Times once again shows it’s questionable journalism and why it’s circulation is rapidly dwindling.


6 posted on 04/18/2017 6:27:44 AM PDT by VideoPaul
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To: rellimpank
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It's those damn commas again!

The Militia is well regulated not the Arms!

7 posted on 04/18/2017 6:27:59 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: circlecity

Exactly, and it will cost almost $2000 to get the permit.

Illinois’ democrat legislators are actively suppressing poor peoples’ ability to defend themselves.


8 posted on 04/18/2017 6:30:02 AM PDT by budj (beam me up, scotty...)
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To: VideoPaul

yikes....is it a right if there are qualifying strings attached ?


9 posted on 04/18/2017 6:33:16 AM PDT by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: rellimpank

It is the last 4 words that are the teeth of the 2A.


10 posted on 04/18/2017 7:05:14 AM PDT by exnavy (God save the republic.)
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To: rellimpank
Notice they use "well regulated" as if it refers to weapons and not to the militia it references - they seem to not notice the "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."....

When the truth doesn't work for them, they have nothing but lies and misdirection to fall back on.

11 posted on 04/18/2017 7:39:48 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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-—the usual distortion and lying from the secondary Chiraq garbage wrap-—
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As if you/we expected anything new?

Only a Socialist, Democrat @sshat, but I repeat myself, would posit that ‘well-regulated’ (in their definition of the word) and ‘shall NOT be infringed’ can exist in the same sentence w/o negation.

Bring in the Princess Bride guy!

SPOILERS: ‘well-regulated’ doesn’t mean what you think it means, dip-sh!t (not YOU you, R., them /s)


12 posted on 04/18/2017 9:35:34 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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