Posted on 04/10/2017 2:59:25 PM PDT by grayboots
My husband is a Gold member on United and is totally disgusted by what they did to that poor man. I thought of a great marketing idea for other airlines. If they offered a comparable status on their airline to fly, my husband would jump at the chance to fly with them. Do you think the other airlines would think of this? I think so many people would switch over to their airline in a heartbeat. Or is this not an option for them?
Your logic if fair. There is company policy that you have to work to. This sort of thing happens every single day. This guy made the news because he chose not to obey a lawful order and paid the price.
From https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/fly-rights#Overbooking
Involuntary Bumping
DOT requires each airline to give all passengers who are bumped involuntarily a written statement describing their rights and explaining how the carrier decides who gets on an oversold flight and who doesn’t. Those travelers who don’t get to fly are frequently entitled to denied boarding compensation in the form of a check or cash. The amount depends on the price of their ticket and the length of the delay:
If you are bumped involuntarily and the airline arranges substitute transportation that is scheduled to get you to your final destination (including later connections) within one hour of your original scheduled arrival time, there is no compensation.
If the airline arranges substitute transportation that is scheduled to arrive at your destination between one and two hours after your original arrival time (between one and four hours on international flights), the airline must pay you an amount equal to 200% of your one-way fare to your final destination that day, with a $675 maximum.
If the substitute transportation is scheduled to get you to your destination more than two hours later (four hours internationally), or if the airline does not make any substitute travel arrangements for you, the compensation doubles (400% of your one-way fare, $1350 maximum).
If your ticket does not show a fare (for example, a frequent-flyer award ticket or a ticket issued by a consolidator), your denied boarding compensation is based on the lowest cash, check or credit card payment charged for a ticket in the same class of service (e.g., coach, first class) on that flight.
You always get to keep your original ticket and use it on another flight. If you choose to make your own arrangements, you can request an “involuntary refund” for the ticket for the flight you were bumped from. The denied boarding compensation is essentially a payment for your inconvenience.
If you paid for optional services on your original flight (e.g., seat selection, checked baggage) and you did not receive those services on your substitute flight or were required to pay a second time, the airline that bumped you must refund those payments to you.
Are you also one of those folks that don't have a TV?
Carry on and Pray for parole. Sorry you got in prison.
I read on another thread that that the “overbooking” was because United wanted to use the seats for four airline employees. So he got bumped because the airline screwed up in the first place with employee scheduling.
As I recall, the overbooked passenger rules that United Airlines enforced yesterday were actually debated in Congress.
However, the actual rules were developed by the FAA.
They don’t have a right to force any individual passenger off the plane once they’ve boarded you. united’s right is to refuse boarding in the first place, but once you’re on the plane they can’t bump you for someone else.
Pretending like it’s his fault because he’s refusing to comply with an arbitrary and abusive exercise of power is the worst kind of authoritarian thinking. I’m sure the cops that senselessly beat him said it was his fault for not complying too.
Not overbooked.
United had 4 employees, crew they needed to move into
Position. Agree, once ordered passenger crossed a line.
Doctors as a class seem ego privileged.
Chicago to Louisville is only a 5 hour drive.
I’m not going to get into hypotheticals..
There are a million scenarios that we can “what if.”
Airlines oversale by sometimes two, three or four. Most times, all passengers don’t show up. This gives stand-by people a chance to board. Also, if you bought the last few tickets at the last minute, this gives you a chance to get on the flight when they sell more tickets than available seats.
> “Fly American. We believe the flag should be red, white & blue...not the passenger.” <
I don’t care who you are. That’s funny right there.
According to other articles, 4 seats were “overbooked” due to 4 United employees who needed to travel to the destination in order to work the next day.
In accordance with Dept of Transportation regulations, the passengers were asked to voluntarily give up their seats. Various offers were made but not enough accepted.
Then the computer randomly selected a seat, the doctor’s for involuntary bumping. The doctor protested as he also had to get to work the next day and refused to give up his seat.
The ‘overbooking’ for the removal of 4 passengers was NOT for other paying passengers but 4 United crew deadheading to another location. Tis was wrong by United on so many levels.
I do not understand why this was not done. It seems obvious.
A friend of my daughter,back in his free spirit days,would TRY to get bumped-————he got quite a few free trips.
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You would call your command and let them know. I know from experience you wont’ get charged with AWOL if you give them a heads up.
You would also tell the airline that you are in the military and are required to report for duty. They would likely choose another person.
I can remember when flying was enjoyable. I dread it now.
Flipping out when removed from an airplane statistically never works to your advantage.
What if he was trying to get to the hospital before his mother died?
What if he was trying to get to his mother's funeral?
What if he was trying to get to his daughter's wedding?
What if he was military and would be AWOL if he missed his flight?
As it was, I understand he was a doctor who said he needed be back to see patients the next morning, so what if one of those patients dies because he wasn't there to catch a critical condition and get them to the hospital in time?
The scenarios are endless.
And besides, twice on my flights, they just started offering money, raising the amount until someone bit. In one case it was $1500. If I hadn't had to be at White Sands for a Shuttle launch, I'd have taken it in a second.
Why didn't they do this.
United airlines is like riding the bus.
U-fly-by-night because it’s a fly by night outfit.
Anybody but United. JetBlue or Southwest where possible, then Delta, American and then United.
> If the flight is overbooked you keep upping the offer for people to volunteer to take the next flight. <
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.
UNITED AIRLINES PISS POOR PLANNING DOES NOT constitute an emergency on my part....well nevermind. If you ignore a flight crew...you're screwed.
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