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BREAKING: Senate votes 52-48 to repeal rule allowing filibusters against Supreme Court [tr]
Reuters ^ | April 6, 2017 | Staff

Posted on 04/06/2017 9:37:08 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: editor-surveyor
Your tagline:

(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)

Do you know of another forum with smarter posters than this one regarding current political events?

221 posted on 04/06/2017 5:45:36 PM PDT by houeto
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To: Alberta's Child

“I suspect there won’t be many comments on this thread. A whole bunch of Freepers who were venting about a betrayal by the GOP on this are probably getting medical attention for their anxiety and angst over the last few days.”

you got that right. I for one never doubted McConnell when he repeatedly stated multiple times a couple of weeks ago that Gorsuch WOULD be confirmed on 4/7/2017.

but you’re right about the nattering nabobs of negativism coming from all the nevertrumper trolls now masquerading as concern trolls.


222 posted on 04/06/2017 7:58:50 PM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Navy Patriot

“Run the Country without DemoRats.”

We already are, considering rthat the Dems refuse to cooperated in any fashion whatsoever.


223 posted on 04/06/2017 8:00:07 PM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

I never doubted Gorsuch getting confirmed. Even the Democrats know that they would not prevail in getting a conservative replaced with someone not conservative. There was a lot of posturing, but the outcome was never in doubt.


224 posted on 04/06/2017 8:01:19 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: catnipman
A lot of folks on this site do not like McConnell, but I am pretty ambivalent about him. I'm not sure I trust him completely, but I don't have a lot of complaints about how he's managed Senate affairs as the GOP leader.

I'll tell you one thing that really moved him up a few notches in my book, though ...

John McCain made a pathetic statement today about how the "nuclear option" would be terrible for this country ... after he had already voted to exercise it. McConnell did a masterful job of keeping every Senate Republican in line on this one.

225 posted on 04/06/2017 8:04:10 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: houeto

We are a very mixed crowd actually, but we do have some truly brilliant contributors.

Our worst still beat the MSM propagandists by light years.


226 posted on 04/06/2017 9:02:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
No. You don't understand. Technically, this is a procedural vote. No matter your thought about an issue, hardly anyone ever crosses the party on a procedural vote. It is a fairly unforgiveable thing.

Joe and a few other Dems will vote for Gorsuch on Friday. This points out that even though RINOs are a pain, they almost always vote with the party on procedural votes. It is important because the majority party sets the terms of debate (at least in the House) and the rules surrounding it. I have seen Susan Collins often vote with the party for various procedural votes on an issue and then vote against the party when the actual issue is being voted on. It seems contradictory, but it really isn't.

227 posted on 04/06/2017 10:03:10 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
No, it doesn't work that way. I just posted a comment on that. This was a procedural vote. Except for unique circumstances, no matter how you feel about an issue you vote with the party on procedural votes. It is unforgiveable if you do not. As I mentioned, Susan Collins and others will vote for the party on the rules surrounding an issue, but then she will vote against the issue at the time the bill is voted on.

It seems weird, but it makes sense. As the majority party, it should be able to make the rules as to how a bill will be debated, when a bill will come up for a vote, the order, etc. So, Susan will always vote with the party on all these procedural votes and then vote against the issue when it actually comes to a vote. A majority party should be able to dictate terms and these RINOs oblige in this area, as they should.

Most all procedural votes generally garner little or no news coverage, but are very important. I'm sure you have noticed in some campaigns a challenger will have an ad claiming the rep or senator voted for or against an issue based on this vote on this date. The incumbent will balk saying it was only a procedural vote.

While RINOs and DINOs on the other side are painful, their value is in the procedural votes.

228 posted on 04/06/2017 10:24:21 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Pirate Ragnar

Well, the pubs have never filibustered a Supreme Court nominee, so the issue is moot. Kegan and what’s her name were not filibustered even though they could have.


229 posted on 04/06/2017 10:30:37 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Flick Lives

If you want to see how dumb the Democrats/Leftists are, just read the comments by them. No knowledge of the Constitution, history (re Schumer/Reid’s rewriting of the Senate filibuster procedure), pure lies, bullshit, and blind-hatred.

Every time the Republicans/Conservatives get to “nuke” the Dems, DO IT. “Go Hiroshima on their dumb asses”.

Show them no mercy because reds and dummies don’t deserve any. They don’t give us any and never will.

Destroy your political enemies before they destroy the country.


230 posted on 04/06/2017 10:37:06 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
That is not true at all. The party in the WH almost always loses seats in the House and Senate in off year election. For 2018, because of the mix, Repubs should keep the Senate, but the House is not guaranteed.

The dems are chomping at the bit and can't wait to vote in 2018, just as the republicans were in 2010. For reasons unknown, the voters for the party in the WH, don't vote because they are happy and satisfied or they are mad because the president did not do exactly what they wanted so they don't vote.

231 posted on 04/06/2017 10:41:24 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Avalon Memories

Brilliant post and completely agree.


232 posted on 04/06/2017 10:42:40 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: HLPhat

He may believe it, but he does not seem the type to feel he must legislate it or order it.


233 posted on 04/06/2017 10:45:20 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Parley Baer

The 30 hours is not considered a filibuster. Both parties get to debate for a maximum of 30 hours. The 8 hours apply for the next one.


234 posted on 04/06/2017 10:52:04 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: rdl6989

They are allowed 30 hours of debate before the vote.


235 posted on 04/06/2017 10:54:10 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: arrogantsob

I was asking about whether the filibuster Nuke was a Bill that needed to be signed by him. Didn’t realize it was just a Senate “rule change” that is now official.


236 posted on 04/07/2017 3:17:51 AM PDT by JerseyDvl ("If you're going through hell, keep going.")
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To: Cboldt

don’t celebrate yet, the nomination is for associate justice on US supreme Court.


237 posted on 04/07/2017 6:46:35 AM PDT by Libertynotfree (Over spending, Over taxes, and Over regulation)
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