Posted on 04/02/2017 8:28:40 PM PDT by Elderberry
” Until then; pass the popcorn and say a prayer thanking God you weren’t there by chance that day.”
Not chance. Choice. I don’t hang out with motorcycle gangs ...
You seem to know a lot about this case.
In your opinion, why is this taking so long to go to trial?
I just read things here and there about it. It seems the longer the wait the less likely justice will be done.
Pardon me for jumping in, but
#1, complexities of the multiple issues for multiple defendants,
#2, Actions, such as last week’s by the P informing the D of the existence of possible exculpatory evidence. This is done to the greatest extent possible to deny any post-conviction appeals that it was not done.
#3, Most probably Tier 2 defs coming in with proffers, trying to make a deal to avoid serious jail time. In many cases, the proffer will include the production of physical evidence or the promise of the physical location of such. That is so much better than just spoken testimony. Such physical evidence takes time to work. As just one example, someone has access to the gangs’ accounting, and remember, that’s how they got Capone on federal income tax charges.
I realise that. It just seems like they could bring in more manpower to speed things up.
Why didn’t they bring in the exculpatory earlier?
What are the advantages of a speedy trial besides not sitting in jail.
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DA was just informed of a federal investigation into motorcycle gangs. Ergo. feds might have a UC or informant there.
The state cases and fed cases people will work together. Tier 2 defs in state case roll over for lighter sentences, pro, or even DJICOA. State will require such persons to “bring a lot to the table,” i.e., info re: Fed felonies, the drug (meth) manufacturing and dealing, and of course, the catchall, income tax evasion.
They’re all toast, which, of course, is what the people and the laws of the State of Texas demand.
Well bully for you gator bait.
Ignore them.
They were abused children, and despite their 3 years in 7th grade, basic logical thought is still a problem for them.
“If this is so true, why does the prosecution keep delaying going to trial?”
They don’t. They simply meet their legal obligation to inform the Defense of any exculpatory evidence that may exist,,, as they did last week,,,, as they are required by law to do.
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I never ceased to be amazed at the “legal system” in Whacko! They aren’t even subtle about their criminal behavior.
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You mean the ‘legal’ system in GENERAL. Just look at the Hawaii vs. Trump case, Cankles vs. ‘private server’, etc.
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Just wonder, in Texas, what level of judicial malfeasance does it take to get the State involved.
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This one we all know: When it’s one of theirs, or the ‘anointed’ cabal.
Just like the ‘boys in blue’, they will move Heaven and Earth when one of theirs is hurt. You\me\us? Best fill out the form if/when they show up.
But, maleficence\graft\corruption? Circle the wagons! You\me\us? There’s *NO* taxpayer $$ not spent to have ‘em throw the book.
Wasn’t like we weren’t warned. History is replete w/ examples; even came in easy to read/understand form: Animal Farm, 1984, Atlas Shrugged, etc.
“Just like the ‘boys in blue’, they will move Heaven and Earth when one of theirs is hurt.”
Interesting. What do you think the next move will be for the Cossacks?
So it’s just coincidence that every time a trial date gets close, they dribble out a little more ‘exculpatory evidence’?
And if there’s that much ‘exculpatory evidence’ to dribble out, how good a case do they really have?
You make claims that are simply not true.
Thank about it this way, if these click bait anti-gov nut sites are trying so hard to have the evidence never presented, then how bad must it be.
These sites are jailhouse lawyers stating conclusions that are in search of real legal evidence... that does not exist.
Bottom line, despite all the claims otherwise, a bunch of motorcycle punks murdered some other people.... and McCellnon County will have it TON of flesh.
“You mean the ‘legal’ system in GENERAL. Just look at the Hawaii vs. Trump case, Cankles vs. ‘private server’, etc.”
Yes, to be sure, but the situation in Whacko is predicated on a bunch of “good old boy” a$$holes bent on covering up the criminal behavior of the Whacko Cops and the McLennan County DA. Their behavior goes well beyond the usual way the system treats ordinary citizens. But I guess when you have potential murder by cop to cover up, they pull out all the stops. Beyond that, it looks like the State of Texas is complicit by their “silence.” I guess because the defendants are bikers who by definition, “need killing!”
The issue was a bad/non-existent warrant and prosecutor/judge misconduct. What they are doing there to the bikers is not legitimate proceedings.
You are just hearing typical jailhouse lawyer arguments.
Here’s a little 45 year legal insight: The defense attorneys are all screaming, because that’s what they do at this point. It gets them some possible conditioning of the jury pool, which will not happen in this case. They are also trying to get media attention for two reasons, it gives credibility to their later argument for a change of venue due to “too much media coverage” to get an impartial jury,” and it is free publicity to get them more possibly winnable cases, lesser felonies, typical B & Es, DWIs, etc.
The DA is going what they do at this point; speaking to the court through motions when they have to. The latest disclosure motion was absolutely required by law. Had he not done so, it could easily have created a valid cause for a new trial on appeal.
DA will start to speak, not about the defs, but about the crime itself, only after venue is settled. He will then tell TV audiences in wherever the trial goes, (If memory serves, Texas moves the judge and the trial to the distant venue, it does not bring in a jury to the original venue) how horrible the crime was, but little about the defs.
He will tell the Good People of X (My guess, Amarillo - Potter County) how horrible the crimes were, good people died, Texas demands justice, etc. because in a a case like this, you first “try the crime, then you try the case.”
Don’t be influenced by the anti-LEO and government haters here, or even worse, the def attorneys. If they had a case, they wouldn’t be so desperate now.
The guy in effect just called (former) District Judge Susan Criss a "jailhouse lawyer".
Like you had said;
which was the gist of Judge Criss's stated objections.
It's far too late for that. He already did. Swanton did too. Then-- they attempted to muzzle the defense (after they got their licks in, towards as you said; "conditioning the jury [pool]).
YOU, who calls yourself Strac6, and you're compatriot --- are the ones whom "should not listened to", for YOU are attempting to "condition the jury pool" yourself, right now. You stinking hypocrite!
If Renya truly had a case for all 154 defendants -- you wouldn't need to have signed up to FR in order to try and sway public opinion. Every time you point the finger, there are the rest of that handful of your own pointing right back at you.
Who the F are you? Really.
No more BS'ing. Answer the question, or STFU regarding the making of all the rude-ass accusations.
Amazing how many lawyers are on FR. And yes there are major problems with the prosecution’s case; has been from the beginning.
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