VACCINE SKEPTICS RALLY IN D.C. TODAY AT A PROTEST HEADLINED BY ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.

Newsweek ^ | 3-31-2017 | Jessica Wapner

[azkathy]

Vaccine fears are on display today in Washington, D.C. A group called Revolution for Truth is leading an anti-vaccine event that includes a rally outside the National Press Club and talks by at least 15 speakers. The day will culminate with a speech by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., an outspoken opponent to vaccines and founder of the World Mercury Project. The stated purpose of the event is to protest the biased media coverage, exploitation by the pharmaceutical industry and government protection that, the group says, perpetuate the use of what it says are dangerous inoculations.

Several dozen people gathered outside the National Press Club this morning, protecting protest signs with umbrellas. “Safety before profit,” said one sign. “Children I love suffer serious vaccine injuries,” said another. “Our children are not lab rats,” read yet another. Rally leaders with a megaphone led chants of “CNN, tell the truth! CDC, tell the truth! No vaccine mandates! No more lies!”

Many signs and chants called for a government subpoena of William Thompson, a psychologist with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Thompson was part of the CDC research team that investigated whether thimerosal-containing vaccines were linked to an increased incidence of autism. Following an interview by Andrew Wakefield, the British doctor known for his role in fueling the widely embraced belief that vaccines cause autism, Thompson became suspected of omitting data linking vaccines and autism in black children from the published CDC study.

Meanwhile, on a rain-soaked sidewalk outside the National Press Club, one sign summarized the conspiracy that many anti-vaccine protesters believe is behind the continued administration of vaccines to children: “Med-Pharma compensates government that mandates; doctor vaccinates; child deteriorates; Congress obfuscates. Subpoena Dr. Thompson! #CDCWhistleblower.”

[maine-iac7]

It’s not the vaccines themselves( most of the time) but the scheduling that is the problem IMHO. Even our POTUS thinks so ....a 2 month old can not take vaccines against 8 or even more diseases in one 5 minute period....it’s not smart and not the way it was done WAYYYYY back when

BINGO

and FYI - Kennedy has been fighting this for years. There's way to much evidence of multiple shots and autism to brush it aside.

[palmer]

All should be on a specific probiotic diet before a vaccine

It's true and double-blind studies have shown the effectiveness of probiotics on many viral infections. However probiotics do not prevent the disease, and don't stop the spread. Vaccines do that.

[Yaelle]

See my post 69.

You need to know that there is no such thing as a genetic epidemic. Not logically possible.

Thus autism (and the many other neurological problems our kids have) has a main cause that is environmental. We don’t know if there is one cause or a combination. But my post 59 shows that science is not being used in the ruthless promotion of old vaccines into tiny infants.

[Magnatron]

I don’t know what to think of this vaccine stuff going on. I do believe that it has nothing to do with the rise in autism. By belief is that the increase in autism rates has much more to do with the level of anti-depressant use in the population — particularly among females while pregnant.

That said, I am a little curious about some of this. I went for my checkup the other day and I needed a Tetanus booster. The doctor said that it was combined with a Whooping Cough booster.

What???

Why do they need to combine those two together? Seems like an opening for trouble when they start mixing these things for injection...

[maine-iac7]

what YOU said.

Why are people so resistant to independent studies -

Why do so many not even question the possibility of harm when babies brains are pumped full of mercury via 6-8 shots at once?

[Yaelle]

You are onto something. Follow the money.

The saddest thing is the busy, new parents who think they are doing the right thing. They take their NEWBORN in to jab him with toxic levels of adjuvants and aluminum, etc. It is so, SO much more difficult to live with autism than without it, and to parent a child with autism. To teach the child with autism. To marry the spouse with autism. And perhaps it could have been prevented by WAITING SEVERAL MONTHS OR A COUPLE YEARS before vaccinating. Gut tests before vaccinating. Rich natural diet before vaccinating. Adequate vitamin levels.

It is as if the pro-infant vaccination people have no care for the human being and his family. No wish to live by the Hippocrates oath, First Do No Harm.

[Neoliberalnot]

I think I will put my faith in modern medical science as you put yours in the modern electronic communication science. Can you answer a couple of quick questions and read what the mayo clinic says about the autism spectrum? Tell us your training. What is your family history? Here is a bit of information from the Mayo clinic.
Autism spectrum disorder affects children of all races and nationalities, but certain factors increase a child’s risk. They include:

Your child’s sex. Boys are about four times more likely to develop ASD than girls are.
Family history. Families who have one child with ASD have an increased risk of having another child with the disorder. It’s also not uncommon for parents or relatives of a child with ASD to have minor problems with social or communication skills themselves or to engage in certain behaviors typical of ASD.
Other disorders. Children with certain medical conditions have a higher than normal risk of ASD or ASD-like symptoms. Examples of these conditions include fragile X syndrome, an inherited disorder that causes intellectual problems; tuberous sclerosis, a condition in which benign tumors develop in the brain; the neurological disorder Tourette syndrome; and Rett syndrome, a genetic condition occurring almost exclusively in girls, which causes slowing of head growth, intellectual disability and loss of purposeful hand use.
Extremely preterm babies. Babies born before 26 weeks of pregnancy may have a greater risk of ASD.
Parents’ ages. There may also be a connection between children born to older parents and ASD, but more research is necessary to establish this link.

[Yaelle]

Every doctor has extensive education. Most have fallen for the lie that current vaccination policies are science. They are most certainly NOT the scientific method. See my post 59. I don't know why doctors are often the most gullible that some policy is science, when they should know what science is. The reason, the real reason, why vaccinations are even ordered given to NEWBORNS repeatedly before they can even sit up is because doctors fear that after that scary newborn time, mothers might not bring their babies in to doctors as much. This is when they can catch them. Another reason is because newborns abandoned at daycares are exposed to many infectious dangers.

[Yaelle]

Please read my post 59 because you are misled on what is the scientific method.

[palmer]

Vaccines should LOSE the adjuvants, metals, and preservatives currently used.

I think you'll find a lot of agreement in science with that. The problem is the industry uses them to make them less legally liable and make more money. There is very strong scientific consensus that vaccination has eliminated certain diseases in some locations. The problem is not that they are done, but how they are done.

[Neoliberalnot]

You didn’t answer my simple question? I have 5 MDs and 4 DVMs, including myself. What are your qualifications? Education please?

So, you think the Mayo Clinic is lying? This is liberal nonsense? You follow JFk, one of the most heinous of liberals?

[Kalamata]

Thank you for posting this, Kathy.

My local elementary school went from having no special education children 30 years ago to currently having separate departments for special education just within one elementary school. Autism now has its own department.

I’ve seen children with autism that are not spoiled, and have very involved parents who do not over or under parent. They are placed in the same classrooms as non-Special education students, which makes it next to impossible to effectively teach to all students.

There are numerous sites which present factual information, but I will just list the links below for those who may be interested. I haven’t seen the movie Vaxxed. The powers that be banned it from playing at the Tribeca Film.

http://vaxxedthemovie.com/

http://www.boughtmovie.com/free-viewing/

How Vaccines Can SPREAD Disease
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXB1TpPKTWA

[R.I.chopper]

Why do they need to combine those two together? Seems like an opening for trouble when they start mixing these things for injection...
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Why indeed??? And imagine a combo of 4 different vaccines going into a 2 month old or even younger...then again at 4, 6 and 12 months...
The clustering began with Gubmints consent/approval/mandating even to make sure infants of low-income families received the vax...cow-towing dangerously to lowest common denominator.

[little jeremiah]

You are absolutely correct.

I read an article the other day, I’ll have to find it, describing that very, very few scientific studies are actually honestly performed and don’t even use their own stated scientific method.

$$$$ rules.

[kara37]

But when it comes to Gardasil, I am on board here. It was never tested on young ones. And those are the ones being targeted,

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That’s the whole point. Non of the vaccines are tested the way any other drug is required to be tested.
They get fast tracked for the good of public health.

[little jeremiah]

The DCD has a complete list of every single ingredient in every vaccine. Just reading that list is an education in itself.

Vaccine Excipient & Media Summary
Excipients Included in U.S. Vaccines, by Vaccine

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf

Impossible to copy it, but here’s the first one just to give people an idea:

Adenovirus

human diploid fibroblast cell cultures (strain WI38), Dulbecco’s Modified Eagle’s Medium,
fetal bovine serum, sodium bicarbonate,
monosodium glutamate,
sucrose,
D-mannose,
D fructose,
dextrose,
human serum albumin,
potassium phosphate,
plasdone C,
anhydrous lactose,
microcrystalline cellulose,
polacrilin potassium,
magnesium stearate,
microcrystalline cellulose,
magnesium stearate,
cellulose acetate phthalate,
alcohol,
acetone,
castor oil,
FD&C Yellow #6 aluminum lake dye

[SecAmndmt]

I have a graduate science degree.

No degree is needed to make informed parental decisions.

Using your logic, only “experts” on firearms should be allowed to make decisions about gun ownership

Incidentally, the AAP still quotes the fraudulent Kellerman study in support of their gun control position. Which other fraudulent studies do they use in support of other positions, such as vaccination?

[markomalley]

Mark, it’s an ethical issue when it comes to using human subjects.

Yes, it is an ethical issue, isn't it?

Is it ethical to study people who voluntarily do not take vaccines (control group) versus those who voluntarily will take a vaccine under study?

Or is it ethical to declare a product safe and effective when we just don't know that to be the case?

Is it ethical for a physician to tell a person they need to have the flu shot to protect them against the flu this winter (and, oh, by the way, with the exception of the egg allergy, not mention ANY side effect)?

Or is it ethical for a physician to tell a person they need to have the flu shot to reduce the vulnerability of the three or four specific strains they estimate will impact us...so that you go from a 10% chance of getting one of these 3 or 4 varieties of flu to a 3.5% chance? And let's talk about the potential side effects and adverse reactions while we're at it...

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Again, let me stress, I'm not being anti-vaccination. If you work in a hospital, a refugee camp, a pre-school, and so on, it is probably a pretty good idea to at least think about it.

But I see conflicts of interest all over the place and I see really inadequate studies being done...studies that appear almost gamed. Almost.

Frankly, the attitudes of a lot of people are just perfect examples of argumentum ad verecundiam (Appeal to Authority):

• The consensus of scientists is that manmade global warming exists and will destroy the planet by 2016. No, you may not question this.
• The consensus of the intelligence community is that Trump is in cahoots with the Russians. If you question the IC, you are obviously a Soviet Mole here to sap the precious fluids from our women and children.
• If you dare question the medical community on vaccines, you are anti-science and a danger to the public health.

[palmer]

The consensus of scientists is that manmade global warming exists and will destroy the planet by 2016

That's a typical problem with critiquing science. There are no viable alternative explanations for a 40% (and growing) increase in CO2 than manmade causes. There are simple (simplistic) models and experiments showing an increase in warming from 100 ppm more CO2 in a column.

Science does not support extending the simple models (line-by-line) to a complex system of weather. For one thing the line-by-line don't have clouds or if they do they are added arbitrarily. Science certainly does not support 2016 doomsday or even 2116 doomsday. The warming is not fast enough, the models are too high, etc.

For vaccines the science supports the elimination of some diseases in some locations from vaccinations. The science does not support the safety of the vaccines, in fact it supports the opposite. But the increased risk to every individual from taking vaccines is outweighed by the decreased risk of the diseases. Down to 1 in 10,000,000 for some, whereas the risk serious injury from vaccination is around 1 in 100,000.

The problem is we can't cherry pick the science we like or ignore science we don't like. We especially can't take nonsense (Al Gore's 2016 prediction made in 2006) and pretend that it represents science.

[palmer]

magnesium stearate,

Typically that is one of the control ingredients when testing vaccines against placebos. There are other ingredients that are also considered harmless or at least do not impact the disease they are testing against. It doesn't mean those ingredients are safe or unsafe, just not considered as part of the scientific evaluation. The vaccine industry has a lot of legal constraints and profit motive to use some nasty ingredients, in particular thimerosal.