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Time to replace Paul Ryan as House speaker
Americanthinker.com ^ | 3/25/17 | J. Marsolo

Posted on 03/25/2017 3:58:32 AM PDT by cotton1706

Paul Ryan failed miserably in his first important task for the Trump agenda.

Since 2009, the Republicans have campaigned in the elections of 2010, 2012, 2014, and 2016 that they would repeal and replace Obamacare. One would think that given this history, the Republican leaders, such as Ryan, would have a well thought out plan to repeal Obamacare.

Ryan probably did not believe that Trump would win and was unprepared to lead the fight to repeal Obamacare. Ryan did not support Trump during the primaries and did his best to damage Trump. Moreover, since Trump's election in November, Ryan and the Republican leaders should have been working on a bill to repeal Obamacare to consider immediately after inauguration. But it seemed that Ryan had a plan with little if any input from conservatives. Trump had to step in to force compromises and adjustments to appeal to conservatives.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; obamacare; paulryan; rayancarebillpulled; replaceryan; ryan; ryancarebill; trump
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To: cotton1706
It's very simple Boehner after realizing that he couldn't retain his seat as Speaker of the House tried to push Kevin McCarthy as the new Speaker and when that failed went with plan B Paul Ryan. It is important to note that both Boehner and Eric Cantor who was supposed to be the next Speaker before being primaried out have remained in Washington after leaving Congress and are there to help “guide” Speaker Ryan with the proper approach to legislation. Ryan couldn't get ObamaCare repeal done because the Chamber of Commerce wants to move to single payer to get health care off the corporate books so he made sure to make it unpalatable to House Conservatives.This not only keeps ObamaCare in place but weakens Trump so they reach across the aisle to move forward the GOPe agenda. Now if they were pushing a comprehensive amnesty I mean immigration bill you can bet your last dollar that Speaker Ryan would be fighting hard to make sure not only can we legalize border jumpers but that they will be able to chain migrate their whole families too.
21 posted on 03/25/2017 4:56:59 AM PDT by bonehead4freedom
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To: LeoWindhorse

“...as Gohmert ranted on & on about it ( eyes darting about wildly )...”

Sounds like you were doing an ‘Adam Schiff’.


22 posted on 03/25/2017 4:58:05 AM PDT by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: cotton1706

I vote “aye”.


24 posted on 03/25/2017 5:05:47 AM PDT by Maudeen (No one on this earth is too far gone for Jesus.)
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To: rcofdayton
They have PRINCIPLES

Principles are fine things, it's true, as long as they are the correct principles. But compromise at the appropriate time and for good reasons is also a fine thing, something too many on the political Right have either never learned or forgotten.

The appropriate time for the so-called Freedom Caucus to stand up for their principles was during the vote for Speaker and Republican leadership at the beginning of this year. Once they voted for Ryan and McCarthy to be their leaders, they had an obligation to follow and compromise where necessary to move the agenda. To pull this stunt now serves no one well and definitely plays into the Left's hands, making us all much less free.

25 posted on 03/25/2017 5:11:14 AM PDT by Avalon Memories
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To: cotton1706
Paul Ryan does need to go now. The only reason Boehner left the chair was that he had run his course and the PTB wanted someone else who was more effective, but with fewer scruples… with Ryan, they got their wish. Someone please bust this smirking, wise-ass, congenital sneak back into overalls and leave him there on a bench in the back of the house until he moves on to the non-elected lobbying gig he was made for. I'm sure his wife, his in-laws, Tom Donohue and the usual suspects will miss the excitement and amusement of watching him screw up the GOP from the inside, but they've had enough fun.

Mr. niteowl77

26 posted on 03/25/2017 5:13:37 AM PDT by niteowl77
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To: LeoWindhorse

I think it means someone who knows procedures and the fact is this bill would have needed 60 senate votes anyway - which isn’t there. So all this is BS anyway and a huge waste of time.


27 posted on 03/25/2017 5:16:15 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: House Atreides

I trust Louie and I thank God for Rep Meadows who revealed the veteran targeting management amendment. This bill was designed to force veterans into the VA gulag, even as trump was standing with a Medal of Honor recipient.. he was behind this veteran betrayal.


28 posted on 03/25/2017 5:18:00 AM PDT by momincombatboots (pathway to citizenship... Amnesty history repeats. Walling Illegals In wasn't the idea moron!)
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To: cotton1706

Dear Mr. Trump,

The swamp is the swamp. You can’t get to D.C. and pretend it is the swimming pool.

Love,

Your supporters.


29 posted on 03/25/2017 5:18:28 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: GOPe Means Bend Over Spell Run
The Freedom Caucus need to grow a set and move for his removal ASAP!

They did grow a pair, but at the wrong time. The time for that was at the beginning of this legislative year when they were voting for House leadership and the speaker. They failed then. So now to cut the legs out from under their own leadership, whom they voted for, is actually the monumentally stupid thing at the wrong time.

30 posted on 03/25/2017 5:18:33 AM PDT by Avalon Memories
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To: cotton1706
von Ryan's Cheap Labor Express will roll on. No danger of him losing his jorb.


31 posted on 03/25/2017 5:20:40 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Ronin

Well, you are touching on something here...the Republicans are all hat and no cattle. Unfortunately, after this, Trump will get that brand as well - all talk and bluster, no deliver.

Ryan must go - as a grand show of blame, if for no other reason. Trump is in a precarious situation here because for whatever reason, he went with Ryan and failed because of it. Preibus may need to go as well, for the same reason - showing that failure is not an option. Because in the end the responsibility for failure will always, always reside with Trump alone in the eyes of the people. The buck stops here. And beyond the fact the bill sucked supremely, this was a Trump defeat, and the man of big, huge, Grand statements and bombastic pronouncements cannot afford defeats.

It is Trump’s blood in the water today. Ryan is just an “underling” in the eyes of the people - not the leader, just a guy with a job that he failed at. But in the end, the buck stops at Trump.

Today there are two openly happy groups...the very far left...Democrats, the further left the happier. They know there is only one place this can now go - single payer government run healthcare, through Obama’s “success” and Trump’s failure, they see the Holy Grail right there to grab. And the ideologically conservative right is happy because a piece of legislation that violated their ideology was beaten down. They agree with nothing else with that first group, the Far Left, but this bill’s defeat pleases them as well. And that these two particular opposite ends happen to both be happy at this event should stop and make everyone think...and maybe be a bit afraid. Who has the power and societal support to win this long game of the grand battle between the opposite ends of the spectrum?

In the end, this is about the broad brush strokes. Trump staked his claim to the presidency on the fact that as a country we don’t win anymore. He said we’d win so much we’d get sick of it. However now, on two of his biggest signature issues now, the Establishment has handed him ringing defeats. The possibly temporary defeat on his effort to exert his authority on immigration, stopped in his tracks by lowly, individual district court judges, at least until he gets a Supreme Court justice through - something that now is in question, will Republicans in the Senate go to the wall to kill the filibuster for a President that fumbled on the one-yard line? And now a second, more permanent defeat when he put himself out there fully to pass this health care monstrosity, tied his cart to Ryan, and failed.

Failure is not an option for Trump, he made that clear himself. He has the entire governing establishment stacked against him, working to kill his presidency in the cradle. He has to smack them down hard and repeatedly, beat them at their own game. Today, he doesn’t look up to that terribly daunting, Augean Stables task.

Yesterday, Trump saved Barack Obama’s “legacy” by trying to destroy it and failing. If he doesn’t start winning very big, very fast - winning on major policiy initiatives that require Congressional action - then he’s heading fast toward saving Jimmy Carter’s.

The buck stops with him. Failure is no longer an option.


32 posted on 03/25/2017 5:23:43 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Avalon Memories
They did grow a pair, but at the wrong time. The time for that was at the beginning of this legislative year when they were voting for House leadership and the speaker. They failed then. So now to cut the legs out from under their own leadership, whom they voted for, is actually the monumentally stupid thing at the wrong time.

You're in agreement with Geraldo Rivera then. Rivera this morning said that "Louie Golmert and the Freedom Caucus are full of baloney" and that he, Rivera, is "fed up" with them.

Birds of a feather and all that.......

33 posted on 03/25/2017 5:24:38 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: cotton1706

LITTLE RYAN AT THE BAT

The outlook wasn’t brilliant for the GOPE that day.
The vote stood more than 20 shy; the looming clouds were gray.
But when Moderates shook their fists and conservatives said "No bill!"
A pall-like deathly silence fell upon the Rulers Of The Hill

A sneer appeared on Ryan’s lip, as he gazed up at the clock
He pounds with cruel authority, his gavel on the block
And now the clerk calls for the vote, and now he adds it up
And now the air is shattered by the force of Ryan's "NO !!!"

Oh, somewhere in this favoured land the sun is shining bright,
The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light;
And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout,
But there is no joy in Swampville—Little Ryan has struck out.


34 posted on 03/25/2017 5:27:06 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Best long term prep for conservatives: Have big families & out-breed the muslims.)
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To: Avalon Memories

I generally agree with what you’ve posted but I must defend the Freedom Caucus on one key point. They didn’t oppose RyanCare on principle. They opposed it because it would have been politically disastrous — for both them and President Trump — to pass it. My congressman said he wasn’t going to vote for it, and he isn’t even a conservative. It was easy to see why that was the case ... only 16% of the voters in my district supported it.


35 posted on 03/25/2017 5:29:03 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: cotton1706; Jet Jaguar; xzins; 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/23/rep-paul-ryan-defends-cuts-military-retirement/

36 posted on 03/25/2017 5:32:35 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: FlipWilson

Dear Mr. Trump,

Dance with the ones that brung you!

Love,

Your Supporters.


37 posted on 03/25/2017 5:39:11 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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Paul Ryan’s single goal is to be the man with the plan. It doesn’t matter what the plan is, as long as he’s the architect.


38 posted on 03/25/2017 5:41:06 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gadsden1st

It can be argued that the ones that didn’t get to dance, a few ugly ones, were the exception to the rule. Most of those that brung Trump were dancing


39 posted on 03/25/2017 5:41:51 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hillary is Ameritrash, pass it on)
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To: cotton1706

“Ryan and the Republican leaders should have been working on a bill to repeal Obamacare to consider immediately after inauguration”......

The bastards were too busy trying to undermine Trump to spend precious time on a replacement for “odumocare”. IMO, any health care plan should NOT be developed by politicians since history tells us it is those who contribute the most to their political careers that will benefit from any such plan. Turn over the health care plan to people who have NO AXE to grind, people who are NOT politically connected and actually know something about health care and insurances plans, its rather obvious those political losers have no clue.


40 posted on 03/25/2017 5:42:21 AM PDT by DaveA37
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