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1 posted on 03/24/2017 1:22:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Agree. But you should apply the name Trumpcare to it too. He did everything possible to twist arms to get it passed. A trip to Capital Hill, hosted reluctant congress critters at the White House, made numerous phone calls late into the night.

He wanted this just as bad as any RINO or Ryan.

66 posted on 03/24/2017 2:03:07 PM PDT by joesbucks
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Here, here; repeal means repeal, not amend/change the existing un-Constitutional law. Any similar bill should be according to the obvious limits to DC powers in USConstitution:

Strictly enabling and allow free market health care with enhanced tax changes and health savings abilities. All health insurance companies to operate across state lines and allow other insurance companies to operate in the health care industry.


78 posted on 03/24/2017 2:12:52 PM PDT by veracious (UN = OIC = Islam ; Democrats may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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What I find missing in the current debate on RyanCare and the debate in 2009 on ObamaCare is a simple question.

Who are the people who actually wrote this legislation?

For certain we know our elected Representatives and Senators did not write any of the words. (Pelosi said they needed to pass it so the Congress Critters knew what was in it)

We also know for certain that healthcare consumers (aka ‘we the people’) did not write any of the words. (Consumers have seen their insurance costs double under ObamaCare)

So who wrote the words?

Did the Health Insurance Industry write RyanCare or ObamaCare?

Or was it the AMA, pharma, hospitals, trial lawyers, government bureaucrats?


79 posted on 03/24/2017 2:13:20 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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Amen, Jim.
My Rep. Dave Brat has been a stalwart since being elected .
100% Heritage Foundation score
We all owe the Freedom Caucus thanks for standing against Ryancare being hung around the neck of our President.
It was a rearranging of Obamacare, not even close to repeal.


87 posted on 03/24/2017 2:18:30 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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Thank you. I don’t know why folks, including the president, can’t understand that health care is not a responsibility of the federal government. It makes no difference what is in the bill itself; it is the fact that accepting the principal of federal responsibility puts the country on an unsustainable path. It is not a matter of supporting or not supporting the president, it is just wrong to think that good intentions can justify improper actions.

When the democrats passed Obama Care, they recognized that it didn’t make any difference what the bill contained as long as it put the federal government on the hook for people’s health care. Rather than taking this once in a lifetime opportunity to kill the monster, republicans, through arrogance or ignorance, think they can make it better or manage it more efficiently. As with a myriad of other programs, this one will take a life of its own regardless of how it is structured at the beginning.


94 posted on 03/24/2017 2:25:45 PM PDT by etcb
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Agree with all you said, Jim. Any form of socialized medicine is unconstitutional on its face, and should never even be considered by the Republican party.

Rip Obamacare out by the roots, and return medical care to the states and the people!


96 posted on 03/24/2017 2:27:34 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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Death to Fedzilla!


102 posted on 03/24/2017 2:34:07 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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So, sports fans, in a three dimensional chess tournament, President Trump hands the Rhinos their a**es and effectively boxes Paul Ryan’s ears. The babbling Rhinos had nothing in their magic boxes for the last 7 years after all. Nothing like a public drubbing to humble a person. Oh, and Paul Ryan, would you return to the locker room to turn in your Speaker tee shirt and keys? Thank you. That is all. Now, if the JV would clear the court, it is time for Varsity to step in.


109 posted on 03/24/2017 2:41:04 PM PDT by MWestMom (We did it! God bless America and President Donald J. Trump!)
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Just let ObamaCare go bust.

The Freedom Caucus, the Countryclub Caucus, and the RINO Caucus of the GOP need to agree to put forward a unified message: Democrat intransigence prevented the GOP from reforming the health care system. Democrats created ObamaCare without a singe GOP vote. When it fails, they own it. But the public won’t know that if conservatives blame each other instead of blaming Democrats for their insane ObamaCare scheme.


111 posted on 03/24/2017 2:43:30 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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Too many people have been told the government should take care of all problems. I really wish the CONGRESS followed the Constitution.


113 posted on 03/24/2017 2:56:54 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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The problem is that the GOP will not let Obamacare go bust. They will mend it, not end it.


114 posted on 03/24/2017 3:00:46 PM PDT by kabar
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Interesting that Ryan won’t submit a bill to repeal Obama Care...I’d like to see the vote on that one...


115 posted on 03/24/2017 3:04:09 PM PDT by Iscool
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The crap coming from the GOPe/WSJ/NeverTrumpers bashing conservatives and Trump is really coming out now. They didn’t get their worthless Ryancare bill passed and by God they’re gonna make Trump and the Freedom Caucus pay.


117 posted on 03/24/2017 3:13:32 PM PDT by TTFlyer
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Pre-Obamacare, the only healthcare crises was the supposed 40 million uninsured.

Under Obamacare, that number magically got reduced to 20 million and they were basically covered by Obamacare.

Return to pre-Obamacare free market insurance policies/coverage and allocate special funding to cover those 20 million. That would still be cheaper than the extortionist Obamacare.

But ... Obamacare was never meant to be healthcare coverage, was it.


119 posted on 03/24/2017 3:16:20 PM PDT by TomGuy
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Absolutely.

States’ Rights or bust.


121 posted on 03/24/2017 3:21:18 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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Yipee the RYANCARE or TrumpCare Bill is dead. Now maybe, just maybe we can find some grown men in the room and construct a Constitutional bill that will REPEAL and return the business of healthcare back to the PEOPLE.

Buying insurance and healthcare are two totally different things and I do not want our FERAL Government in either.

140 posted on 03/26/2017 2:45:15 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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