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Why Are These Conservatives Waving The White Flag On ObamaCare?
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 3/22/2017 | John Merline

Posted on 03/23/2017 4:05:02 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer

If the Republican's ObamaCare replacement plan ends up looking an awful lot like ObamaCare, here's one reason why: Prominent conservatives have already conceded defeat.

In his latest column, Charles Krauthammer declared that "For all its catastrophic flaws, ObamaCare changed expectations. Does any Republican propose returning to a time when you can be denied health insurance because of a pre-existing condition?"

Another well-known conservative commentator, George Will, wrote almost exactly the same thing in his column that just posted.

"It is unknowable whether Barack Obama produced an American consensus in favor of a government obligation to guarantee universal access to health insurance, or whether the debate surrounding the ACA merely catalyzed a gradually forming consensus," he wrote. "In any case, today's debate about replacing the ACA is occurring in the context of that consensus."

"Changed expectations"? "An American consensus"? After ObamaCare has been in effect for less than 39 months?

(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hillarycare; obamacare; romneycare; trumpcare
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1 posted on 03/23/2017 4:05:02 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer
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Once it became an entitlement the whiny, sticky children of the country will not allow it to change back.
Requiring the coverage of treatment for pre-existing conditions is not insurance, it's welfare.
2 posted on 03/23/2017 4:15:04 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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The EXEMPT believe they can lie whenever they want,
and about this malicious attempt to make the
gov’t control healthcare:
Pres. Trump and Ryan are LIARS.

They ran on REPEAL, and kept THEMSELVES EXEMPT
and made ObamaCARE ===> TrumpCARE.

FOOLS and traitors, all.


3 posted on 03/23/2017 4:18:29 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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I would argue that there have always been several Republican plans that differed but agreed on several main conditions.

Pre existing conditions would be taken care of. The tax exemption for premiums would be extended to those not employer covered. Children to 26 would be covered by parents plan. All these were to be included in what ever came about.


4 posted on 03/23/2017 4:22:47 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hillary is Ameritrash, pass it on)
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To: IBD editorial writer

Conservatives ?


5 posted on 03/23/2017 4:24:01 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: IBD editorial writer
Why Are These Conservatives Waving The White Flag On ObamaCare?

Check your premises: They are not Conservatives.

6 posted on 03/23/2017 4:28:09 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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“Does any Republican propose returning to a time when you can be denied health insurance because of a pre-existing condition?”

Krauthammer and George Will both live in Washington, DC. They live in a bubble. That statement gives you a clue as to how they think.

No one has ever denied insurance to people with pre-existing conditions. What these people did previously, was pay for it by being placed in a high risk pool. The same way bad auto drivers are now. That’s what we had before and need to have again.

Krauthammer and Will are both democrat hacks pretending to be conservatives. They should be handed over to ISIS and beheaded. Televise it for the world to see.


7 posted on 03/23/2017 4:43:17 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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conservatives are a small minority in congress. they are a minority in the republican side of congress. their options are

1) Keep congress from doing anything (unless Ryan/Trump work with Ds)

2) Negotiate for as much as they can get from the majority Rs and let the Rs “repeal and replace” as Rs promised for 3 elections even if the replacement isn’t very good.

As a rule, I’m for congress NOT getting anything done. But in this case I’m for negotiating hard and hopefully getting commitments for more power in the tax reform bill. I don’t know anyway to trust Ryan/McConnell to honor those commitments though.


8 posted on 03/23/2017 4:49:35 AM PDT by LostPassword
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I've made sure that Obamacare doesn't affect me directly, so I really don't have a dog in this fight. My one overriding concern from a political standpoint is that whatever comes out of this has to save money for most voters -- immediately. Otherwise, it will be a political disaster for the GOP and a waste of everyone's time.
9 posted on 03/23/2017 4:56:22 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: bert

I agree...that was my understanding also.

I keep hearing about how wonderful it is to keep your kids covered on your insurance until they are 26. But I have no earthly idea what the big deal is. 1] how widespread is it? and 2] They are covered, so what? There is no real difference if they are covered under their own policy or their parents except for increased premiums to the insurance co.
Preexistings: The vast majority get their insurance through their employers and, for the most part, preexisting is waived as a new hire. Heck I work for a real small business and even we do that. Again: I am not sure just how many people are truly affected.

No waiting to try to buy insurance when you are sick would be an issue but its just wrong to think you should be chained to a job because you have a condition, lets say type2 Diabetes. It makes little sense that if you change employers, your medications are no longer covered and you cannot get covered treatments for some waiting period. [Portability]

The issues I can’t get past are the fees for not having insurance: those would be way more than the present penalty/tax and the lack choice in your coverage: I do not want need or desire to cover either pregnancy, birth control NOR Viagra. [And especially abortions!!] But I do not see that the present bill offers relief for that. Could be wrong.

I just hope the Freedom Caucus stands firm and insists on a clean repeal. Worry about replace later...if at all.
But thats just me...a proud deplorable meanie....


10 posted on 03/23/2017 4:59:16 AM PDT by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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To: IBD editorial writer

Krauthammer and Will conservative? It is to laugh.


11 posted on 03/23/2017 5:11:47 AM PDT by Bigg Red (The LORD of hosts is with us; our stronghold is the God of Jacob. Ps 46:12)
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PS: Blog pimping is so unattractive.


12 posted on 03/23/2017 5:12:42 AM PDT by Bigg Red (The LORD of hosts is with us; our stronghold is the God of Jacob. Ps 46:12)
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These are not true conservatives. They are politicians that “speak conservative” and are just lap dogs to the donor with the biggest check.

they are issues politicians NOT SOLUTION politicians.


13 posted on 03/23/2017 5:18:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Bigg Red

I expect more blog pimping by anti trump trolls with fake conservative stories. Stories designed to fool low IQ voters who have no clue how parliamentary procedure works.

(iow sausage making)


14 posted on 03/23/2017 5:21:08 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Flavious_Maximus
No one has ever denied insurance to people with pre-existing conditions. What these people did previously, was pay for it by being placed in a high risk pool.

If people weren't denied insurance in the open market then why did they need a high risk pool? And what about the 25 states that didn't establish them before Obamacare? Will they be required to do so under Trumpcare?

15 posted on 03/23/2017 5:25:46 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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So we now expect?
16 posted on 03/23/2017 5:34:13 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: HighSierra5
RINOs, as the majority of this august pack of leeches are.
17 posted on 03/23/2017 5:36:38 AM PDT by onedoug
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Does any Republican propose returning to a time when you can be denied health insurance because of a pre-existing condition?"

Yoohoo, Charlie. I do.

ML/NJ

18 posted on 03/23/2017 5:46:09 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: longtermmemmory

This is only the first step. People should chill.


19 posted on 03/23/2017 5:47:00 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: IBD editorial writer

Because they understand that the perfect is the enemy of the good.


20 posted on 03/23/2017 5:49:53 AM PDT by kabar
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