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CNN: House Intel chairman: Trump's personal communications may have been collected
CNN Online ^ | 3/22/2017 | Tom LoBianco

Posted on 03/22/2017 10:40:25 AM PDT by 1Old Pro

(CNN) — House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes said Wednesday that President Donald Trump's personal communications may have been picked up by investigators through "incidental collection."

Nunes said at a news conference he discovered the potential surveillance of Trump himself while reviewing intelligence reports, but said it was not related to Russia.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 115th; bho44; bhocia; devinnunes; intelligence; kabar; nsa; nunes; nunespresser; nunesquotes; obamasfault; surveillance; trump; trumpwiretaps; wiretapping
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To: 1Old Pro; flaglady47
Is it sinnin'
To love all this winnin'?

Leni

41 posted on 03/22/2017 10:56:10 AM PDT by MinuteGal (GO TRUMP !!!......GO PENCE !!!......DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!)
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To: DAC21

Never had a doubt, Trump is very smart, wouldn’t make this stuff up. The media are fools.


42 posted on 03/22/2017 10:56:50 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Parmy

Trump said in the Jessie Waters interview that “stuff would come out in next 2 weeks” - Bingo. Incidental & Unmasked. So if they weren’t bugging the evil Russians, who were they bugging?


43 posted on 03/22/2017 10:58:13 AM PDT by Jimmy The Snake
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To: Vermont Lt

“They kind of, sort of collected his communications.”

“I would have to wonder what agency was kind of, sort of, collecting his stuff. I am not sure there are any that are supposed to work in the US aside from the FBI.”

“(I know they do. My Dad was in the Counter Intelligence Corps during the mid 1950s. He would tell me a story and I would say, “but that’s not legal.” He would look back at me like I was an idiot. Which at the time, I was.)_”

Your Dad was right in the 1950’s and is still right in 2017!

First of two parts and maybe more on the 7+ decades long history of the UK’s spying on our people and us spying on their people.

UKUSA Agreement
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The UKUSA Community: Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States

The United Kingdom – United States of America Agreement (UKUSA, /;/ew-koo-sah)[1][2] is a multilateral agreement for cooperation in signals intelligence between Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. The alliance of intelligence operations is also known as the Five Eyes.[3][4][5][6][7]

In classification markings this is abbreviated as FVEY, with the individual countries being abbreviated as AUS, CAN, NZL, GBR, and USA, respectively.[8]

Emerging from an informal agreement related to the 1941 Atlantic Charter, the secret treaty was renewed with the passage of the 1943 BRUSA Agreement, before being officially enacted on 5 March 1946 by the United Kingdom and the United States. In the following years, it was extended to encompass Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. Other countries, known as “third parties”, such as West Germany, the Philippines, and several Nordic countries also joined the UKUSA community.[9][10]

Much of the sharing of information is performed via the ultra-sensitive STONEGHOST network, which has been claimed to contain “some of the Western world’s most closely guarded secrets”.[11]

Besides laying down rules for intelligence sharing, the agreement formalized and cemented the “Special Relationship” between the UK and the USA.[12][13]

Due to its status as a secret treaty, its existence was not known to the Prime Minister of Australia until 1973,[14] and it was not disclosed to the public until 2005.

[13] On 25 June 2010, for the first time in history, the full text of the agreement was publicly released by the United Kingdom and the United States, and can now be viewed online.[9][15] Shortly after its release, the seven-page UKUSA Agreement was recognized by Time magazine as one of the Cold War’s most important documents, with immense historical significance.[13]

The global surveillance disclosure by Edward Snowden has shown that the intelligence-sharing activities between the First World allies of the Cold War are rapidly shifting into the digital realm of the Internet.[16][17][18]

Due to its status as a secret treaty, its existence was not known to the Prime Minister of Australia until 1973,[14] and it was not disclosed to the public until 2005.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement#Origins_.281940s.E2.80.931950s.29


44 posted on 03/22/2017 10:58:19 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spydgate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Why yes.. yes they do need to.


45 posted on 03/22/2017 10:58:23 AM PDT by CygnusXI
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To: Enterprise

The democrats did not ralize that by pushing the investigation that they have opened themselves up. That is why Comey stated that the investigation is open. When he releases the findings, rhey might like who is on the list - like The Clintons, Obama and all the rest...


46 posted on 03/22/2017 10:58:52 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: 1Old Pro

Fire Comey now.


47 posted on 03/22/2017 10:59:08 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: bray
One more source:
48 posted on 03/22/2017 10:59:11 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: 1Old Pro

Sure didn’t see this coming..., Bwa ha ha ha ha.

How many times now?

The Leftist MSM and Democrats NEVER LEARN.

Well Comey, now that your credibility is shot yet again, now what?

Resign now.


49 posted on 03/22/2017 11:01:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: Vermont Lt

More on how your Dad was right then and now and how!

Part two of ??? parts history of our agreement where the Brits spied on our people and we spied on their people for 7+ decades. Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.

“It couldn’t possibly be true, because that is not how our system works,” Pelosi said during a Christian Science Monitor breakfast in Washington.

“We do not investigate, through a FISA court, Americans — here or abroad.”

Well, Nancy how about this: Part two of ??? parts history of our agreement where the Brits spied on our people and we spied on their people for 7+ decades. Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.

MUSCULAR (surveillance program)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MUSCULAR (DS-200B), located in the United Kingdom,[1] is the name of a surveillance programme jointly operated by Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) that was revealed by documents which were released by Edward Snowden and interviews with knowledgeable officials.[2] GCHQ is the primary operator of the program.[1]

GCHQ and the National Security Agency have secretly broken into the main communications links that connect the data centers of Yahoo! and Google.[3]Substantive information about the program was made public at the end of October 2013.

Contents:

1 Overview
2 Operational details
3 Reactions and countermeasures
4 Gallery
5 See also
6 References
7 External links

Overview:

The programme is jointly run by:
– Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) (United Kingdom)
– U.S. National Security Agency (NSA)

MUSCULAR is one of at least four other similar programs that rely on a trusted 2nd party, programs which together are known as WINDSTOP.

In a 30-day period from December 2012 to January 2013, MUSCULAR was responsible for collecting 181 million records. It was however dwarfed by another WINDSTOP program known (insofar) only by its code DS-300 and codename INCENSER, which collected over 14 billion records in the same period.[4]

Operational details:

According to the leaked document the NSA’s acquisitions directorate sends millions of records every day from internal Yahoo! and Google networks to data warehouses at the agency’s headquarters at Fort Meade, Maryland.

The programme operates via an access point known as DS-200B, which is outside the United States, and it relies on an unnamed telecommunications operator to provide secret access for the NSA and the GCHQ.[3]

According to the Washington Post, the MUSCULAR program collects more than twice as many data points (“selectors” in NSA jargon) compared to the better known PRISM.[2]

Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.

Because of the huge amount of data involved, MUSCULAR has presented a special challenge to NSA’s Special Source Operations. For example, when Yahoo! decided to migrate a large amount of mailboxes between its data centers, the NSA’s PINWALE database (their primary analytical database for the Internet) was quickly overwhelmed with the data coming from MUSCULAR.[5]

Closely related programmes are called INCENSER and TURMOIL. TURMOIL, belonging to the NSA, is a system for processing the data collected from MUSCULAR.[1]

According to a post-it style note from the presentation, the exploitation relied on the fact that (at the time at least) data was transmitted unencrypted inside Google’s private cloud, with “Google Front End Servers” stripping and respectively adding back SSL from/to external connections.

According to the Washington Post: “Two engineers with close ties to Google exploded in profanity when they saw the drawing.” After the information about MUSCULAR was published by the press, Google announced that it was working on deploying encrypted communication between its datacenters.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUSCULAR_(surveillance_program)


50 posted on 03/22/2017 11:01:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spydgate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: 1Old Pro

Well if it was not related to Russia then what was it related to?


51 posted on 03/22/2017 11:01:52 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Sarah Barracuda

We’ve gotten to know Donald Trump and trust him. Comey has to be brought on the carpet and have him explain his answers on Monday. He was lying! He had to know!


52 posted on 03/22/2017 11:02:32 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: DouglasKC
Well if it was not related to Russia then what was it related to?

Obama was gathering political info to help Hillary.

53 posted on 03/22/2017 11:03:20 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: richardtavor

President Trump played these gorfs like a fiddle. All he had to do was complain about being under surveillance, and they did the rest. They demanded investigations. They mocked him, some demanded proof, and some called him a liar. Now the fat is in the fire, and they aren’t liking it.


54 posted on 03/22/2017 11:06:28 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

Cue Sean Spicer Press conference, time to spank the liddle reporters.


55 posted on 03/22/2017 11:07:11 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: All

The ears of the NSA have been turned inward for a few years now.. Obama has weaponized the federal government against the people. Elections do have consequences.


56 posted on 03/22/2017 11:07:36 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Yosemitest

Thanks! Here is another interesting tidbit the major MSM mediots are not covering.

The head of Britain’s electronic surveillance agency GCHQ has resigned!

23 January 2017*

Robert Hannigan, who has held the post of GCHQ director since 2014, said he was stepping down for family reasons.
He said he was proud of his work but that 20 years in public service roles had “demanded a great deal of my ever patient and understanding family”.

Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said Mr Hannigan had “led the renewal” of national security capabilities to fight terrorism during his time at GCHQ.

Mr Hannigan was director general of defence and intelligence at the Foreign Office before taking over the leadership of GCHQ in 2014.

In a letter to the foreign secretary, he said he was proud of the work he had done and “how many lives have been saved in this country and overseas by the work of GCHQ” but added “now is the right time for a change in direction”.

Mr Hannigan said it was “right” that a new director be in place ready for GCHQ’s 100th anniversary in 2019, but he would stay in the post until a replacement was appointed.

‘Cyber defences’
Sources have told BBC security correspondent Gordon Corera that the resignation was not the result of any concerns over policy in the UK or in the US.

Mr Johnson thanked him for his service, saying he had “set the groundwork for a major transformation of our cyber defences” during his tenure.

There will now be an internal competition within government to identify candidates for the job. Recommendations will then be sent to Mr Johnson and Prime Minister Theresa May for a final decision.

Mr Hannigan was born in Gloucestershire and is a married father-of-two.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38723040

*23 January 2017 (A couple of days after the $$$$ hit the fans aka Muscular and the UK’s GCHQ spying on Trump, his people and us, yes us!)


57 posted on 03/22/2017 11:08:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spydgate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: Grampa Dave
Thanks! Here is another interesting tidbit the major MSM mediots are not covering.

It doesn't fit their false narrative.

58 posted on 03/22/2017 11:09:17 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

That should shut up the smug David Muirs and Scott Pelleys. ‘Where’s the proof???’ Where’s the proof???????


59 posted on 03/22/2017 11:10:10 AM PDT by LydiaLong
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To: 1Old Pro

I’m amazed CNN would even cover it...


60 posted on 03/22/2017 11:11:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (Access to Heath Insurance is NOT 'health-care' - Who pays for Chicago slaughters?)
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