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Do not let the Dems, GOPe win, do not let Ted Cruz, McCain and Graham destroy our economy (Vanity)
opinion | 3-22-2016 | ShivaFan

Posted on 03/22/2017 5:34:29 AM PDT by ShivaFan

Rand Paul is trying to be relevant. Ted Cruz thinks he is going to run for President in four years by undermining Trump and purposely undermining the economic rally. Both of these were candidates who lost to Trump in the Republican primaries. On the other side, we have the total enemies of the Republican base, John McCain who belongs in a strait jacket and is so despised by the Republican base he didn’t even have a chance of even entering the primaries much less win them, and an equally pathetic Never Trumper Lindsey Graham who also like Paul and Cruz ran and lost his bid and dropped out because he couldn’t even get 1 percent of the vote, another Never Trumper, Trump wining Graham’s own state of South Carolina by a landslide. Both McCain and Graham have been on a non-stop tirade against Trump and both want to immediately go to war with Russia and start World War Three. Investors like me already priced in the August tax cuts into the DOW. We started doing that back in December, and we have seen the greatest economic recovery started in my lifetime, largely thanks to Donald Trump. About half of the 3,000 point gain in the DOW since Trump won is this pricing in of the August tax cuts as, like any investor, an investor first buys in when the price is relatively “cheap” with the hopes of gains in the future or near future. So about 1,500 points of the 3,000 point gain in the DOW is this pricing in of the tax cuts which will guarantee and economic and jobs boom like not seen in many decades, it will exceed Reagan. Obamacare is imploding. Once it totally goes under, however, this implosion will hurt the economy. So we need to get rid of it, and replace it – at first with a model that is more based on free economic models – but we need the tax cuts in August first or the pricing in of the cuts into the DOW will then “price out”, the DOW will drop 1,500 points, the left wing MSM will go nuts blaming Trump and the “collapse of the economy” which actually won’t be a collapse because we will still be 1,500 points ahead of the game over the horrible Obama days but just not 3,000 points up but rather 1,500 points up, but the media will tell American over and over again the mantra that Trump destroyed the economy, all part of the efforts by the Democrats and the neo-cons in the Republican Party, the GOPe, and now the likes of Ted Cruz who thinks he can still run for President in 2020 by delaying the tax cuts on purpose so as to hurt the economy and thus hurt Trump who “insulted (my) father and family”.

All that will happen, however, is the Democrats who are totally evil and use deep state against the American people, and who want to suppress freedom of speech and who wants only a media-state propaganda mill in the MSM, and of which are part of the cheap labor global interests along with the GOPe which wants to destroy Trump in the name of cheap foreign labor and open borders, the worst of the worst will gain back power and then totally destroy the American middle class and disfranchise Americans from their jobs and expand debt and expand government to the level of totalitarianism as found in Venezuela. Many good Americans will also be put in prison and totally marginalized. Nor will Cruz even be able to run for President in 2020, he is delusional and will be totally destroyed by the MSM and the Democrats even more so than the MSM, the Democrats, the GOPe, McCain, Graham, now Rand, and Ted Cruz could ever destroy Trump. As far as Rand is concerned, he will get everything he wants in the replacement of Obamacare, but just not right now. That will happen after the tax cuts and the economic boom unlike we have seen in many decades. Just pass what is up on the table now, we MUST move into the tax cuts immediately to start this up, then once we got the economy we want we will setup a replacement of Obamacare that meets all the criteria but we need the tax cuts first to do that which will seal the deal for a Republican majority for the next 20 years.

But what Rand and Cruz and the Democrats and the GOPe is doing, is they are going to – and most see it is intentional – destroy the economy so to destroy Trump who they hate and think they will personally gain by doing so. Certainly Rand and Cruz will gain nothing. Only the Democrats and the GOPe will gain and retake control for the establishment.

And we will all be screwed like you have never experience in your life, you will lose your country, period. Obviously, I hate the Democrats. And the GOPe. And now I hate Ted Cruz and Rand Paul in a big way. Please, contact your representatives, get past the Obamacare thing for now and move into the tax cuts immediately, then set the stage for the total end of Obamacare and it’s replacement by a workable system that will save our healthcare and medical progress. Please. Do not let the Democrats regain power. Do not let the delusions of a Ted Cruz destroy us. Do not let the Never Trumpers on FOX, the neo-cons, the open borders cheap labor lobby destroy us. You have this chance like never before, but you are facing the greatest challenge at this time like never before. Stop them. Now.


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KEYWORDS: cds; crazy; cruz; cruzrandpaul; lunacyonparade; mccain; randpaul; reeeeeee; shivafan; thanksmorons; trump
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To: Responsibility2nd

He better be.

The sorest loser and greatest embarrassment I’ve ever seen is up for re-election, in Texas, so keep that in mind.

He accordingly is on his best behavior.


41 posted on 03/22/2017 7:30:00 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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To: ShivaFan

Anyone opposed to RyanCare, is not undermining the economy or trying to undermine Trump’s presidency. RyanCare is a flawed plan.

Folks, the savings accounts and interstate insurance aspects don’t come with the initial bill. No, the two best ways to reduce the costs will come in phases two and three, way down the road.

Further, there is the very real chance phases two and three will never be enacted.

Do it all now. Get it done.

RyanCare is wrong headed, breaks the faith, and is an insult to the American public.

It should be despised as much as ObamaCare.

It’s nothing more than the GOPe flipping off the people who didn’t buy into the weasel Jeb Bush.

Trump, you can do better than this.


42 posted on 03/22/2017 7:31:48 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I've been thinking of something along these lines too but you have gone much further. I do believe this is a good solution that would work around some of the conflicting goals. Once the mandate is gone the whole thing becomes toothless and people can do what they want - it doesn't seem like the GOP wants that.

Whats this with illegals getting coverage I'm hearing - Is that true? What happened to America First - I guess that meant the land mass - how about Americans First

43 posted on 03/22/2017 7:33:07 AM PDT by datricker (Democratic Party - aborting their voter base since 1973)
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To: SeekAndFind

Medicaid for all? Why exactly would you need additional “market driven” solutions after that? Medicaid for all would blow a whole in the idea of fiscal responsibility.


44 posted on 03/22/2017 7:35:42 AM PDT by wiseprince
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To: VTenigma

Yep. One guy ran on “repeal EVERY word of obamacare on day one” and the other guy ran on “repeal and replace obamacare, and take care of people. We have to take care of people”. We got the second guy. We’re getting what we voted for


45 posted on 03/22/2017 7:38:54 AM PDT by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God)
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To: ShivaFan

To put Ted Cruz in the same category with McCain and Graham is a big error. Cruz is a Conservative all the way through.

President Trump is human and has said he will make some mistakes. He may be making one by supporting Obamacare light.


46 posted on 03/22/2017 7:41:24 AM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Libs put feelings first and thought second.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Mike Lee are heroes


47 posted on 03/22/2017 7:43:00 AM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: ShivaFan
Trump is WRONG on Ryancare.
48 posted on 03/22/2017 7:44:16 AM PDT by TXSearcher (Interesting times we live in...........)
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To: sickoflibs

Well... I smiled when he said that, as well.

Not long after he said that, the Freedom Caucus began the push for cleaning the Ryan bill up to make it look more like what Trump ran on and won on.


49 posted on 03/22/2017 7:45:28 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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To: DoughtyOne
It’s nothing more than the GOPe flipping off the people who didn’t buy into the weasel Jeb Bush.

Thank you.

50 posted on 03/22/2017 7:57:16 AM PDT by TXSearcher (Interesting times we live in...........)
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To: TXSearcher

“:^)

This is a plan Jeb Bush would enforce with glee.

That should concern Trump.


51 posted on 03/22/2017 8:01:46 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: SmokingJoe
Ryancare is rubbish. Period. It needs a be killed. Ted Cruz and [Rand] Paul are heroes for fighting against Ryancare.

I completely concur. Some here seem to think any disagreement is a bad thing. If they want "Yes men" they should join the Democratic party.

52 posted on 03/22/2017 8:02:13 AM PDT by scripter
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To: SmokingJoe

Ryan is fighting Ryancare?


53 posted on 03/22/2017 8:03:32 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ShivaFan

Derailing this conglomeration of crap that the Trump and Ryan are trying to force through may be what saves the GOP in 2018. Passing it will not.


54 posted on 03/22/2017 8:04:29 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: ShivaFan
What the......?

Too bad you missed Ted Cruz taking down brain dead liberals like Feinswein at the Gorsuch hearing yesterday. Had to you found the time to view it, you might have a different opinion about the man. Of course, you may still be suffering from CDS.

Beyond that, why would you support something coming from a guy who told us that he will never defend Trump...not now, not in the future? The guy's wife is a democrat and so is the person who advised him on his Obamacare light bill. Are you ok with legislation that removes only 2 of the 12 mandates in the ACA? If so, you might be a big government pretend conservative.

The third bucket is what is known as story paper. The writing on that paper is no different than the fairy tales told to young children. Only Pollyanna would believe what he's telling you.

Your hatred for your true conservative allies is causing you brain fever. Get help. Get better.

55 posted on 03/22/2017 8:05:48 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: kjam22; ShivaFan
Yep. One guy ran on “repeal EVERY word of obamacare on day one” and the other guy ran on “repeal and replace obamacare, and take care of people. We have to take care of people”. We got the second guy. We’re getting what we voted for

Exactly. Yet somehow in the OP's mind, this is Cruz and Paul's fault.

Amazing!

I certainly agree with any prediction that says Cruz will never be able to run (and win) in 2020. Not with "reasoning" like this (as in the OP)!

And if this (Ryan/Trumpcare) is "winning", yeah I can say I'm tired of winning now.

56 posted on 03/22/2017 8:16:36 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: ShivaFan

I praise God for my Senator: Rand Paul and for Ted Cruz, Mike Lee et al. and for the Freedom Liberty Caucuses every day. They are courageous, true believers in liberty, free-market principles and conservatism.


57 posted on 03/22/2017 8:21:15 AM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: FourtySeven
"And if this (Ryan/Trumpcare) is "winning", yeah I can say I'm tired of winning

There is the quote of the day

58 posted on 03/22/2017 8:31:59 AM PDT by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God)
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To: wiseprince

RE: Medicaid for all? Why exactly would you need additional “market driven” solutions after that? Medicaid for all would blow a whole in the idea of fiscal responsibility.

Medicaid NOT FOR ALL, but for those who want to and have been relying on government ran healthcare.

Many will soon see the folly of this and those who can will eventually come to the parallel free market side of things.

The reality is there are tens of millions who are already sucking on the government’s Medicaid teat and weaning them out is going to be a battle.


59 posted on 03/22/2017 8:32:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: scripter

With you 100%. We were not supposed to sit down and let our betters work once Trump got elected. MAGA Trump! but that doesn’t mean I stop thinking and turn into a yes gnome.


60 posted on 03/22/2017 8:47:30 AM PDT by JayGalt
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