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Dershowitz: Courts Essentially Saying If Obama Issued Trump Travel Ban, It Would Be Constitutional
mediaite.com ^ | March 18, 2017 | Josh Feldman

Posted on 03/19/2017 3:36:06 PM PDT by grundle

Alan Dershowitz said on Fox News this morning that because court rulings against President Trump‘s travel ban are bringing up his own past rhetoric, the argument is basically, “If Obama had issued the very same order with the same words it would be constitutional, but if Trump issues it it’s unconstitutional.”

This week a federal judge in Hawaii and a district court judge in Maryland both ruled to block the revised travel ban, with the latter saying in his decision, “The history of public statements continues to provide a convincing case that the purpose of the Second Executive Order remains the realization of the long-envisioned Muslim ban.”

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1 posted on 03/19/2017 3:36:06 PM PDT by grundle
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2 posted on 03/19/2017 3:40:19 PM PDT by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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To: grundle

If the court issues a flawed ruling based on political leanings, then ignore the ruling. Why do the courts think they can make up rules to suit their politics.


3 posted on 03/19/2017 3:43:16 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Behind enemy lines)
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Every now and then,Dershowitz really gets it right.


4 posted on 03/19/2017 3:50:03 PM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Gomert has a bill that will remove the courts from ruling on this it had better be moved fast


5 posted on 03/19/2017 3:50:03 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

A ruling based on campaign rhetoric. Outrageous by any measure so
why hasn’t Kennedy stepped in and tossed on prejudicial grounds? The
Hawaii Judge actually said if Obongo had issued it it would have been fine.


6 posted on 03/19/2017 3:56:28 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

A ruling based on campaign rhetoric. Outrageous by any measure so
why hasn’t Kennedy stepped in and tossed on prejudicial grounds? The
Hawaii Judge actually said if Obongo had issued it it would have been fine.


7 posted on 03/19/2017 3:56:29 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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Aren’t Federal Judges answerable to the U S Senate?


8 posted on 03/19/2017 3:58:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both)
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To: grundle
Alan Dershowitz said on Fox News this morning that because court rulings against President Trump‘s travel ban are bringing up his own past rhetoric, the argument is basically, “If Obama had issued the very same order with the same words it would be constitutional, but if Trump issues it it’s unconstitutional.”

It is not true that this argument holds for any action by a Republican vs a Democrat?

According to Democrats "In God We Trust," is unconstitutional, and anything else that they believe does not fit in with their warped and twisted versions of Utopia.

9 posted on 03/19/2017 4:00:44 PM PDT by olezip
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To: grundle

Exactly. The purpose is to destroy Trump.


10 posted on 03/19/2017 4:02:10 PM PDT by I want the USA back (The media is acting full-on as the Democratic Party's press agency now: Robert Spencer)
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“Gomert has a bill that will remove the courts from ruling on this it had better be moved fast”

Absolutely, Trump will be playing whack a mole with these Judges from here on out if this isn’t taken out of thier hands.


11 posted on 03/19/2017 4:03:07 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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K
What did Obama say before that could be used as the analogy?


12 posted on 03/19/2017 4:08:11 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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And, not that there was any doubt, but not only did Ø do the same things, he did it a few dozen times. Here is the data:

2016, Apr. 21 – Obama
Executive Order 13726, 81 Fed. Reg. 23559 on Libya

2016, Mar. 18 – Obama
Executive Order 13722, 81 Fed. Reg. 14943 on North Korea

2015, Nov. 25 – Obama
Executive Order 13712, 80 Fed. Reg. 73633 on Burundi

2015, Apr. 2 – Obama
Executive Order 13694, 80 Fed. Reg. 18077 (later amended by Executive Order 13757, 82 Fed. Reg. 1 (Jan. 3, 2017)) on immigrants or nonimmigrants, of aliens who are determined to have engaged in “significant malicious cyber-enabled activities”

2015, Mar. 11 – Obama
Executive Order 13692, 80 Fed. Reg. 12747 Venezuela

2015, Jan. 6 – Obama
Executive Order 13687, 80 Fed. Reg. 819 North Korea

2014, Dec. 24 – Obama
Executive Order 13685, 79 Fed. Reg. 77357 Ukraine

2014, May 15 – Obama
Executive Order 13667, 79 Fed. Reg. 28387 Central African Republic

2014, Apr. 7 – Obama
Executive Order 13664, 79 Fed. Reg. 19283 South Sudan

2014, Mar. 24 – Obama
Executive Order 13662, 79 Fed. Reg. 16169 Ukraine

2014, Mar. 19 – Obama
Executive Order 13661, 79 Fed. Reg. 15535 Ukraine

2014, Mar. 10 – Obama
Executive Order 13660, 79 Fed Reg. 13493 Ukraine

2013, June 5 – Obama
Executive Order 13645, 78 Fed. Reg. 33945 Iran

2012, Oct. 12 – Obama
Executive Order 13628, 77 Fed. Reg. 62139 Iran

2012, July 13 – Obama
Executive Order 13619, 77 Fed. Reg. 41243 North Korea

2012, May 3 – Obama
Executive Order 13608, 77 Fed. Reg. 26409 Iran and Syria

2012, Apr. 24 – Obama
Executive Order 13606, 77 Fed. Reg. 24571 Iran and Syria

2011, Aug. 9 – Obama
Proclamation 8697, 76 Fed. Reg. 49277 immigrants or nonimmigrants, of aliens who participate in serious human rights and humanitarian law violations and other abuses
2011, July 27 – Obama
Proclamation 8693, 76 Fed. Reg. 44751 as immigrants or nonimmigrants, of aliens subject to U.N. Security Council travel bans and International Emergency Economic Powers Act sanctions


13 posted on 03/19/2017 4:20:03 PM PDT by C210N
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bump


14 posted on 03/19/2017 4:22:46 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: grundle

Time to start ignoring forum-shopped federal district court judges’ orders?
It has become obvious they are partisan and purely agenda-driven.
This complete lack of respect by one branch of govt. (a lower echelon at that) for the chief executive, head of another coequal branch, is outrageous.
If President Trump does nothing, it will continue. They will block him at every turn.


15 posted on 03/19/2017 4:30:33 PM PDT by tumblindice
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Bump


16 posted on 03/19/2017 4:42:58 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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As leftist as he is ,,,,I think most of his politics are pretty darned bad ,,, Dershowitz does occasionally stand up for truth. This is why I’m still willing to read some of his stuff. He deserves credit for having the courage to do this when the communistic DNC leftist revolutionaries are so consistently liars


17 posted on 03/19/2017 5:26:36 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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Was obvious the legal system was gone when they ruled CO2 a pollutant. Wake me when the shooting starts.


18 posted on 03/19/2017 6:45:59 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: C210N

Thank you. Kept.


19 posted on 03/19/2017 6:51:30 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: BenLurkin

They are answerable to the congress

Congress can prohibit them from ruling on a subject or implementation


20 posted on 03/20/2017 12:21:36 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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