Posted on 03/16/2017 12:26:54 PM PDT by drewh
A bill introduced into the Arkansas state House of Representatives would restore the traditional definition as the law in the Natural State.
State Representative Stephen Meeks is the author of House Bill 2098, which reads, Marriage shall be only between a man and a woman. A marriage between persons of the same sex is void. Moreover, It is the public policy of the State of Arkansas to recognize the marital union only of man and woman.
Meekss measure enjoys the support of at least 19 co-sponsors (including one state senator) and, should it be enacted, the bill would block recognition of same-sex unions sanctioned in other states.
Several pseudo-constitutional experts have criticized the content of the bill, claiming that it violates the Full Faith and Credit Clause of Article IV, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, which reads:
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
In this matter of fundamental Constitutional importance, it is crucial to understand precisely what the Full Faith and Credit act was and was not intended to do.
First, as a matter of indisputable historical record, states have occasionally refused to acknowledge marriages legally entered into in other states. According to the Supreme Courts interpretation of the Full Faith and Credit Clause, states that have valid public policy exceptions to legal acts of other states do not have to recognize those acts.
Some argue that such exceptions would disrupt the smooth and unregulated movement of citizens from state to state without having to worry about whether or not they would have to re-marry if they moved from one state to another. This is an irrational fear for as the name of the qualification implies, the public policy exception is just that an exception. The rule that a marriage entered into in one state would be valid in another would still apply, unless that marriage violated the declared public policy of the laws of the second state.
At various times in the history of our country states have refused to recognize marriages solemnized in sister states when those marriages violated community standards for reasons such as polygamy and consanguinity. Such refusals to legitimize all marriages entered into in other states have never, despite the fear-mongering of the homosexual lobby and its shills, restricted the free and frequent movement of Americans from one state to another.
There is an additional aspect of the Full Faith and Credit Clause that would protect states from being Constitutionally forced to give legal effect to homosexual unions contracted in other states: the text of the clause itself.
The exact wording of the Full Faith and Credit Clause requires that states give full faith and credit to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state.
Marriages, strictly speaking, are not judicial acts, they are licensed acts and as such they do not fall under the Full Faith and Credit umbrella, any more than a license to practice law in one state guarantees that same right in a neighboring state.
The Full Faith and Credit Clause, then, does not require one state to validate a same-sex unions entered into in another, but actually protects it from having to do so. All of this without the need of a Constitutional amendment!
Understanding the Constitution, the Full Faith and Credit Clause, its intended purposes and limitations, removes the fear that the Full Faith and Credit Clause can be used legitimately as a tool for making homosexual marriage the law of the land. Such a use was never the intent of our Founding Fathers, and it violates two centuries of constitutional precedent and interpretation.
The Full Faith and Credit clause has generally worked smoothly and quietly and has not received the same level of judicial attention as more controversial provisions of the Constitution, such as the commerce clause, due process, equal protection, and the treaty-making power.
In a country whose climate is undeniably contrary to the Christian concept of the family, it will be equally undeniable that the Full Faith and Credit Clause will become the focus of more attention in the near future and indeed may, as the Commerce Clause before it, be twisted by a Supreme Court that habitually usurps power, legislates from the bench, and purposefully removes the fetters the Constitution places on its power.
If the Supreme Court takes this tack, it falls upon the Congress of the United States to exercise the authority given it in Article III of the Constitution to limit the jurisdiction of the courts to redefine marriage.
If history is any guide, however, Congress will once again fail to fulfill its constitutional duty and it will fall upon the states to stand as the ultimate barricade to progress of the evil of federal usurpation. Thus, Representative Meeks steps into the breach, fulfilling his constitutional duty.
Next, lets consider the argument forwarded by other enemies of the Meeks bill that it is prima facie void since it fails to recognize the ruling of the U.S. Supreme Court in Obergefell v. Hodges. Regardless of the reasoning of five judges and the deference its given by the media and members of most state legislatures, lawmakers in Arkansas and her sister states are well within the boundaries of their retained authority to nullify Supreme Court attempts to define the terms of the contract we call the Constitution.
Our Founders understood this.
Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1819 that if a certain practice ever became status quo, our Constitution will have become a felo de se a suicide pact. The practice he was warning about was judicial review, the idea that the courts have the final say on a laws meaning and that their determinations must constrain all three branches of government.
Undeniably, judicial review has become status quo.
Does this mean, then, that we as a country will commit suicide?
Jefferson explained the problem with judicial review, writing:
For intending to establish three departments, co-ordinate and independent, that they might check and balance one another, it has given, according to this [judicial review] opinion, to one of them alone, the right to prescribe rules for the government of the others, and to that one too, which is unelected by, and independent of the nation.... The constitution, on this hypothesis, is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist, and shape into any form they please.
The author of the Declaration of Independence also pointed out, correctly: Our judges are as honest as other men and not more so. They have with others the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps. Have we not seen this truth on full display the past week, with the Court repeatedly proving itself to be merely a rubber stamp for a radical leftist agenda?
Summing up the profound danger of judicial review in 1820, Jefferson minced no words in calling it a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy.
That oligarchy reigns.
Regarding the Progressives praise of judicial review, its appropriate to review the origin of this practice.
First, its not in the Constitution. It was not passed by Congress, signed by a president, or voted on by the people. Rather, it was declared to be a power the Court should have in the 1803 Marbury v. Madison decision.
In other words, the Supreme Court gave the Supreme Court ultimate-arbiter power, and decade after decade, decision after decision, the Supreme Court has exalted itself into a de facto oligarchy.
The execution of such a law would undoubtedly pit Arkansas against the federal government, a fight where for the last century or so the fix is in. But it wasnt always this way. And the Constitution was certainly not intended to function in favor of the federal government.
States, as creators of the federal government, are the arbiters of the limits of the latters power, and forcing them to accept the definition of "marriage" to include same-sex unions certainly falls outside those limits.
One way that states can continue simultaneously supporting the Constitution and their own sovereignty is by nullifying the federal courts extra-constitutional edict. The Arkansas bill would take that state along this constitutionally sound course.
What state Representative Meeks and his co-sponsors seem to understand is that all state legislators and other state officials (including attorneys general and governors) are duty-bound to refuse to enforce every act of the federal government that exceeds its constitutionally defined powers.
As James Madison explained in the Virginia Resolution of 1798:
In case of a deliberate, palpable, and dangerous exercise of other powers, not granted by the said compact, the states who are parties thereto, have the right, and are in duty bound, to interpose for arresting the progress of the evil, and for maintaining within their respective limits, the authorities, rights and liberties appertaining to them.
Nullification recognizes that states retain the power to invalidate any federal measure that exceeds the few and defined powers allowed the federal government as enumerated in the U.S. Constitution.
Inb4federalpoliticalhackjudgecallsitunconstitutional!
Get the ball rolling, and maybe more timid states (that are inclined in that direction) will join in.
I will have to read this later. There is a lot to digest.
It would seem that marriage is a state issue, but, like abortion, it has been co-opted by the federal government/Supreme Court. That is my first thought, though I’m probably wrong.
In any case, good for Arkansas! As Mike Gallagher would say, they are “fighting the good fight.” :)
Agree with the author that the “full faith and credit” clause has nothing to do with what is specifically a State issue, thus the 10th Amendment controls any such rulings. SCOTUS has no direction where the Constitution is silent. If it is not specifically stated in the Constitution or any of its Amendments, then it is a State issue. Mike Drop.
Legally, nice try but no cigar.
SCOTUS has spoken affirmatively to the constitutionality of the issue.
No state constitutional amendment nor other addition, nor statute will superseded that.
Know we don’t like it, but it’s the law.
Withdrawn 3-14-2017
No...it is a closely decided judicial decision. The opinion of a few lawyers. It currently is given the force of law. But the ruling is contrary to history, culture and nature and stands on a foundation of sand.
The left's two greatest cultural accomplishments, abortion and gay marriage, are based on judicial fiat, not cultural and social acceptance. Both are horrible examples of constitutional law. Both are essentially non-democratic assertions of naked federal power and will forever divide our nation.
Unless you are talking about Concealed Carry.
In a Constitutional Government, Congress would correct this, but it seems the only thing they seem adept at is making personal fortunes.
It would be great if even some of or Congress would have actually read the Constitution.
Well, no. Actually, courts rulings do not become law, they can only strike down existing laws or policy. Legislatures/congress must by any form pf logic, then go back and pass a corrected law that meets the scotus standard or no law regarding that subject exists.
For instance- in 2006 Missouri passed a constitutional amendment stating marriage is only between one man and one woman. That popular amendment ( passed with some 78% of the vote) was struck by the recent homo ruling. Just as I said before, the County Clerk lady who said she could not sign marriage certificates said so because her state’s law was ruled void by that scotus ruling. No law, no clerk actions. To my knowledge, TN ( or was it KY?) still has not amended its law regarding marriage to meet the scotus standard, so technically that state has no marriage laws that have force of law....
I'd settle for a few more liberal judges that actually read the Constitution!
The great irony is how the Left uses the Constitution as a weapon to advance their agenda thorough judicial dictate. Hence abortion and gay marriage, both of which were either taboo or illegal when the Constitution and the 14th Amendment were adopted and indisputably outside of original intent.
But express constitutional guarantees, like the Second Amendment and State's Rights are either ignored or marginalized by liberal courts. In these cases, the Constitution has no use to the Left, and therefore, no meaning.
If the founders wanted the Constitution to automatically mean different things as society evolved, why include a very clear procedure for amendment? Yet another express portion of the Constitution which the Left pretends has no meaning.
Onward!
“Well, no. Actually, courts rulings do not become law, they can only strike down existing laws or policy.”
Well, no. Actually. A court ruling is a court ruling and observation thereof is mandatory, like or not. They are not limited to constraining orders.
A classic example: We enjoy Freedom of the Press. But the Constitution does not guarantee freedom of Radio, or TV, or the Internet. We enjoy those freedoms because SCOTUS decided the Framer’s intent was really “Freedom of the Media.” Back when the USC was adopted, the primary “media” was “The Press.” Now, that expanded freedom gives us the guarantee JR can operate FR, even though no “press” is involved.
Your TN/KY example is perfectly on point: Law or not, marriage license applicants, after the called-for fees, ceremony, etc, are legally married.
"Article IV, Section 1: Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof."
If I understand the Supreme Courts decision in United States v. Windsor (DOMA) correctly, what the corrupt media and pro-LGBT, state sovereignty-ignoring justices probably don't want anybody to find about the Court's decision that DOMA is unconstitutional is explained as follows.
The main provisions in DOMA are as follows.
This Act may be cited as the "Defense of Marriage Act.
No State, territory, or possession of the United States, or Indian tribe, shall be required to give effect to any public act, record, or judicial proceeding of any other State, territory, possession, or tribe respecting a relationship between persons of the same sex that is treated as a marriage under the laws of such other State, territory, possession, or tribe, or a right or claim arising from such relationship.
In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the word 'marriage' means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the word 'spouse' refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife.
What the Supreme Court actually decided was unconstitutional about DOMA is Section 3 which defines marriage. And I agree with the Supreme Courts decision because the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate marriage per se, marriage uniquely a state power issue.
But not only is Section 2 of DOMA evidently still in effect (corrections welcome), it is a good example of Congresss Full Faith and Credit power to regulate the effect of records between states.
So not only is it wise for Arkansas and any state to put its marriage policies in writing, but the Arkansas marriage bill is strengthened by Section 2 of DOMA where effect is concerned.
Again, we havent been hearing about DOMA with respect to Congresss power to regulate effect of marriage between states probably because of Obama era pro-LGBT political correctness.
No...it is a closely decided judicial decision. The opinion of a few lawyers. It currently is given the force of law. But the ruling is contrary to history, culture and nature and stands on a foundation of sand...
and like it or hate it, its is still the law we must follow, until and if we can elect officials to change it.
It's called living in a Civil Society.
An old Trade School (law school) prof told us "The best judges are the ones who will give you a decision they personally despise... and a 90 day stay to get the law changed, or show them where they were wrong.
Fraud by court is NEVER law.
It’s about time someone stood up to court mafia.
“Fraud by court is NEVER law.
Its about time someone stood up to court mafia.”
I’m sorry, but this is far from Fraud by Court. When you don’t like a decision, work to get it reversed.
For example, the government-paid lawyer who sued the DC Dry Cleaners for millions in Person v. Chung. I was proud to be part of a group who ended up grinding Pearson into the dirt in that matter.
One “stands up” with logic and votes, not rhetoric and/or guns.
I agree. But the Left no longer does.
As you noted, the Right views the Constitution as a charter to live in peace with people of different beliefs and preferences. But the Left doesn't see it that way. They use the Constitution as a malleable weapon to defeat political opposition. They don't recognize the value of social peace that is provided by the Rule of Law. They believe in the Rule of the Mob.
Maybe the Right will eventually figure out that while it was playing football, the Left was secretly playing rugby. The whole time holding the Right to rules the Left feels free to ignore.
At some point the game can't continue.
Good article. Thanks.
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