Posted on 03/16/2017 9:17:07 AM PDT by drewh
What do you do if you're a woman in the Marines, and you make a sex video, and your fellow Marines see it? Claim you're being sexually harassed, of course!
It seems that a number of female Marines are having sex with male Marines and filming it, and then, when they break up, the male Marines share the sex videos with their comrades. This is said to have provoked a major crisis in the Marines.
Marine officials said the branch was looking into a number of Marines, as well as current and former service members, who shared naked and compromising photos of their female colleagues on social media through a shared drive on a Facebook group called Marines United.
"It's Marine Corps wide," said Marine Pvt. Kally Wayne, 22, who joined in 2013 and was removed from the service three years later for disciplinary problems. In early 2016, her ex-boyfriend, a Marine, posted a sex tape they had made in 2013 to a Marines Facebook group, which quickly spread, eventually getting posted on Marines United, which has 30,000 members, where it appeared sporadically.
I guess you could said that her sex tape went viral. I think they should change her rank from Private to Non-Private.
"I went to the police to get them to take it down and they told me because I didn't live in North Carolina they couldn't do anything," Wayne said. "I went to his command and they said, 'Why don't you not make sex tapes?'"
Exactly.
Wayne said she knows at least 10 other women who have endured online sexual harassment.
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They are shared property with the understanding both parties have to agree to their use.
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I doubt if they had a written contract about that...
I doubt if they had even discusswed the use...
You really think she didn’t show the vids to her girlfriends ??? Really ???
their relationship and understanding had dissolved years ago...
You know I was talking about the stupid female going all church lady not you...
the word used was “outraged” as though the guy had set up a camera in the women’s locker room...
And you can deny the immorality of making a sex tape all you want, but in this case there are two moral violators.
To use your own words: They are both at fault! Period!
You are trying to defend a man who posted private materials on the internet years after a relationship ended.
There is no defense for that.
You can bob and weave all you like, a man with any morals at all would not do something like that.
He for damn sure wouldn’t blame her for it.
He for damn sure wouldn’t trash her for her behavior, when she had simply done something to make him happy in the day.
Hate to say this, but your defense of this guy certainly lives up to my opinion of many practitioners of the legal profession.
Actually I didn’t, since I was defending her.
Alas, the whole sordid mess reminds me of Starship Troopers
It is not immoral to take videos of your sexcapades if you want to. As long as your intent was to keep those between the two of you, the non-violating participant did nothing wrong.
If you don’t know that, you picked the wrong profession.
Oh, where can I watch it?
Agreeing to be filmed while having sex is a moral violation on both sides.
To continue this discussion would be pointless; I’ve said my piece, you said yours, we will let people decide which moral code they wish to follow.
Have a good day.
That's as idiotic as saying having sex is a moral violation.
What's the difference if you did it, or are merely watching yourselves doing it?
Neither is a moral violation.
When you violate the agreed to and expected privacy, that is the moral violation.
What's more, you know it.
You have a good day too.
In your story, you are right. She violated her relationship, and doing so for the “right reasons” doesn’t make it right.
But if a private image or video is shared, that is the fault of the person who shares it, not the person who participated in it.
Sure, the woman can avoid this by not making the video. Just as you can avoid getting cheated on by not ever getting into a relationship.
In fact, your story illustrates the point so well. In your story, the man, as part of a trusting relationship, asks his girlfriend to find a way across the river. He would have no reason to think she’d betray him by sleeping with someone else because of that request.
But your argument seems to be that it is HIS fault for trusting her when he asked her to cross the river, because he should have known better than to trust her.
I say that the woman put her trust in a man who did not deserve it, but that doesn’t make her “to blame”, it makes her the victim.
Now, if she had seen previous sex tapes he had made with other girls, then we could blame her for not using her head. But there are many guys out there who CAN be trusted not to betray a confidence. I certainly don’t want my girlfriend to think that if she ever trusts me with anything that is private, she’s being stupid.
But your argument seems to be that it is HIS fault for trusting her when he asked her to cross the river, because he should have known better than to trust her.
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No at the time I picked her as the one at fault ...
However he could have found a way across himself...
I don’t care about the argument that you are stupid to make a sex tape because it might get out. That is clearly true, just as if you don’t walk on the street at night you are less likely to be mugged.
It is not a good analogy because walking alone at night is a normal activity that every human will at some time find himself or herself in; under some circumstances, it is dangerous. That does not excuse criminal attackers. But the difference is that making a sex tape with your boyfriend is always and everywhere stupid. There's just no reason to do it, only for dummies.
No I didn’t say either was stupid because they trusted...
I said the female was stupid to take her clothes off and get naked pics and videos and make sex tapes with her boyfriend...
I don’t care what the unspoken understanding was at the time ...did they really stop and think about the future use of any pics etc ??? ...I doubt it ...
Sexual Lust driven behavior usual doesn’t include any rational thought for the future...just immediate Hedonist gratification ...
>>Well not this, but if I caught wind of it he’d be out of luck.
Well, any girl who would make a sex tape on digital media that can be copied in a few seconds isn’t really a girl who respects herself anyway. Why would anyone else respect her?
If he put a hidden cam in the bathroom and shared that, then I’d agree with you. Keep in mind that these are Millennials, so any fame for any reason is better to them than a life of anonymity.
Would a female applicant who let herself be filmed performing sex acts also be “out of luck”?
as for “trust” there wouldn’t be much nor need for any..this was not a married couple who had exchanged promises and vows of eternal fidelity and trust and a heartfelt contract to look out for one another ..
This was just a male and a female and selfish fornicating ...
Wayne said. “I went to his command and they said, ‘Why don’t you not make sex tapes?’”
Exactly.
(YEPPERS)
Wayne said she knows at least 10 other women who have endured online sexual harassment.
(No kid not “endured sexual harassment” the words are “invited attention” )
We had a nurse at 12th Evacuation Hospital in RVN deliver on the operating table. (Not many too labor rooms in Army hospitals in Vietnam.)
She didn’t show so much because oh the uniforms worn outside the beltline.... and thought she had missed her periods because she was “stressed.”
I consider the things two people do in private by agreement not to be immoral.
What you do with your wife or girl-friend in private, is not immoral.
Neither you or they have done something that displays a lack of self-respect. It displays an act of love, doing something for the other person that makes them happy.
What I see here is a man acting like a juvenile, posting something on the internet that should not be there. It’s malicious in nature, and I think he should be called to account on it.
I went through a very painful divorce a few years back. I refused to say anything negative about her in public. If I had any materials that were of a private nature, there’s no way in hell I would make them public.
Either a person has a moral code or they don’t. If they don’t, they’ll blame all sorts of stuff on the person they betrayed, and will label them as something less than decent.
That’s wrong.
a person who has sex outside of marriage has no moral code...
morals are God-based...
God calls it fornication not “love”
a moral person who can be trusted would display those character attributes by getting married first...
there is no true happiness in a sexual relationship outside outside of marriage...
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