Female Drake U. Student Initiates Sex with Incapacitated Male, Lies About Key Details...

Reason.com ^

[TigerClaws]

There are fundamental deprivations of justice, and then there's what happened to a male student at Drake University. The student, "John Doe," was expelled for sexual misconduct—ostensibly because he engaged in nonconsensual sex with a female student, "Jane Doe."

In truth, John was punished for failing to realize quickly enough that he was actually the victim in the encounter. Drake officials still refuse to fix their mistakes.

During the course of Drake's sexual misconduct investigation, administrators uncovered several pieces of evidence that made John's claim to victim status arguably stronger than Jane's: Jane had initiated the encounter, by her own admission, and wasn't nearly as intoxicated as John. (It's also possible that she initiated at least one other nonconsensual sexual encounter later that night.)

[SolidRedState]

Well, that’s because men can’t be victim of a woman’s sexual misconduct.

C’mon, get with the program. Sheesh

/s as if needed.

[Bob434]

[[ Drake officials still refuse to fix their mistakes.]]

A multi million dollar lawsuit will change their minds quick enough

[WKUHilltopper]

I hope he sues the living sh!t out of Drake and part of the pay out is re-naming the school John Doe’s University.

[BlueLancer]

It's always what I see in military courts as well: you've got two drunk young people who decide to engage in sexual activities. In the morning, when the female has second thoughts, it automatically becomes the male who is at fault, who, even though he was as drunk or more drunk than she was, is the one who bears responsibility for all of the bad decisions that were made that night.

I've also gotten in arguments with instructors at the SHARP (sexual harassment and rape prevention) training about this type of issue. If male and female soldiers are both due the same respect, then female soldiers are just as responsible for their bad decisions as the males and should be held to the same standards of punishment.

In short, the morning after a drunken sexual encounter, there it what appears to be a foot race between the two parties involved to see who can blame the other first.

[I want the USA back]

The man is always wrong. Has no recourse when there is a false accusation by a woman. The authorities ask the guy about it, looking for a way to hang him on it.

[Digger]

The man is always wrong.

We need a little Shria Law to straighten this out. (sarc)

[\/\/ayne]

Easy way to avoid all this is don’t get extremely drunk. All sorts of bad things can happen to you.

[tophat9000]

The assumption with men ... “erection equals willing” therefore...a man can never be raped ...via conventional intercourse

The truth of the matter is I tend to agree on that one...

Now if we are talking intoxication equals the equivalent of statutory rape..

in that you’re not able to give willing consent even though the mechanical is functioning

then yes men can be raped ...even a sleeping man can be raped

[dhs12345]

And avoid the wild parties where you might pick up an STD in addition to a trip to the hoosegow.

Hey, better yet... no sex before marriage. What an concept! After all, maybe there is some merit to the old fashioned traditional male-female relationships of a serious commitment before sex. Naw, too I am just an old fuddy duddy. Forget it. Ignore me. :)

[tophat9000]

I guess a women could tie a guy up... then dosing him with enough Viagra or Cialis that he has no control over having an erection...that would be rape

[Morpheus2009]

Guys also have vulnerable bits so if a woman just simply bashes a guy in the groin, or crushes his bits in a vise grip, that is something to consider as an attrocity, if it isn’t for defensive purposes.

[Morpheus2009]

Or she could knock him or drug him out and stimulate him somehow.

[DaveA37]

“The man is always wrong. Has no recourse when there is a false accusation by a woman”......

How many men have been labeled sex offenders or worse, have done prison time for being accused by a woman? It happens all the time. How does a MAN provide evidence that he wasn’t even there when it becomes a “she said/he said” issue. Tragic, but it happens a lot and more than one might even think. The real problem is that the man is “guilty until proven innocent” and without evidence, he’s toast.

[VaeVictis]

Wow. Just wow. The hypocrisy was obvious and well pointed out at the end of the article. Secondly, what in the world is wrong with that woman? She is claiming rape but she admittedly went to at least 2 other random men and committed sex acts?

[DH]

Men can’t get assaulted by a female and raped due to the fact that when they are scared the Teeny Weenie syndrome takes over. The uglier the female the more it affects them.

[alternatives?]

“multi million dollar lawsuit will change their minds quick enough”

No it won’t. It will be paid out of insurance and endowments. The decision makers won’t be impacted.

What should happen is the employees conducting the hearing should lose their jobs immediately and not merely reassigned. They should also face civil damages that are not reimbursed. The same thing should happen up the chain of command including the justice department officials.

[Garvin]

“That’s all according to John’s lawsuit against Drake. His father, Tom Rossley, is also suing the university. Rossley was dismissed from the Board of Trustees after attempting to draw attention to his son’s plight. His suit alleges that Drake’s board improperly fired him”.

[Bob434]

true- but then their insurance goes up- but it likely won’t affect them much- they’d simply declare it a ‘necessary cost’

[[They should also face civil damages that are not reimbursed.]]

Another god point- and far more effective-

[BeauBo]

It’s college - guilt is determined by race, gender and political affiliation - not based on what people did.