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Ka-52 attack helicopter deliveries to Egypt to begin in 2017
FLIGHTGLOBAL.COM ^ | 14 MARCH, 2017 | DOMINIC PERRY

Posted on 03/14/2017 5:33:29 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: jbrown7.62x39; RedWulf

What about the NOTAR System that Boeing uses on their Civilian Helicopters?

The Sheriff’s Department uses them here.

Seems like a simpler design and it doesn’t leave a weak link with that Tail Rotor hanging out there.

An old friend of mine was a Helicopter Pilot. His buddy died then the Tail Rotor came apart (might have been a bearing failure) and he couldn’t recover. He watched the guy spiral down and slam into the ground.

BTW - I am not a Helicopter designer and I don’t play one on TV, just asking questions. LOL


21 posted on 03/14/2017 10:37:20 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: jbrown7.62x39

But wouldn’t a small transmission be easier to armor and protect than a long shaft to the tail with another transmission and rotor?
I bet that transmission in the KA-52 is as armored as the cockpit or any other vital part of the aircraft. I don’t know for sure, just suspect knowing how Russians are...


22 posted on 03/14/2017 10:40:20 AM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: jbrown7.62x39

I like this video, Polish Tantal.

Nice slow motion video, and music...
https://youtu.be/BDGB4ymFwXg


23 posted on 03/14/2017 10:51:17 AM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: jbrown7.62x39

I like this video, Polish Tantal.

Nice slow motion video, and music...
https://youtu.be/BDGB4ymFwXg


24 posted on 03/14/2017 10:51:17 AM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: Kickass Conservative; Wildbill22

As far as taking fire, I don’t know. I was thinking more about mechanical failures due to a counter-rotating transmission’s million little parts, rather than enemy action. Best to just armor up like a hind and give it a powerful engine to protect such a seemingly complex component like a hind. Also like a hind, redundant systems jack its survivability WAY up. Not sure if a hind still slices off it’s own tail if you bank it too sharply


25 posted on 03/14/2017 10:52:40 AM PDT by jbrown7.62x39 (Holy crap. We really are gonna MAGA!! What a great time to be alive!)
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To: Kickass Conservative

>What about the NOTAR System that Boeing uses on their Civilian Helicopters?

>The Sheriff’s Department uses them here.

>Seems like a simpler design and it doesn’t leave a weak link with that Tail Rotor hanging out there.

>An old friend of mine was a Helicopter Pilot. His buddy died then the Tail Rotor came apart (might have been a bearing failure) and he couldn’t recover. He watched the guy spiral down and slam into the ground.

With anything the less moving part the better. However combat is a different kettle of fish and it requires battle field testing to see how such systems hold up against small arms fire and basic maintenance issues in a combat zone.

It’s unfortunate that you friend’s, friend helicopter didn’t have an ejection system. That’s really the only way to be safe in a helicopter. I think the Russians are the first to implement a working ejection system for helicopters.


26 posted on 03/14/2017 10:53:07 AM PDT by RedWulf (#purge the nevertrumpers)
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To: Wildbill22

>But wouldn’t a small transmission be easier to armor and protect than a long shaft to the tail with another transmission and rotor?
I bet that transmission in the KA-52 is as armored as the cockpit or any other vital part of the aircraft. I don’t know for sure, just suspect knowing how Russians are...

They have a armored and unarmed version. It will be interesting to see if it holds up as well as the older armored Mi-24.


27 posted on 03/14/2017 10:56:27 AM PDT by RedWulf (#purge the nevertrumpers)
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To: Wildbill22

Nice. I like it. I think you convinced me to check out a 74. By the way, check out THIS video. It’s just beautiful and the sound effects are wild.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=70ITPdXzQqg

What an awesome little machine


28 posted on 03/14/2017 10:59:41 AM PDT by jbrown7.62x39 (Holy crap. We really are gonna MAGA!! What a great time to be alive!)
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To: jbrown7.62x39

I had a Romanian SAR-1 at one point in my life. Foolishly sold it in my youthful ignorance...


29 posted on 03/14/2017 12:34:16 PM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: Wildbill22

I don’t do Romanian builds. Their gas blocks walk out after a few thousand rounds, I’ve seen a milled receiver crack, the rear sight fall off, and the front sight tower was set crooked. That was an old 10/63. I got a guy who bought an RAS that exploded on the 4th round. Not only that, I see rivets countersunk and others where the rivets have daylight between the rivet head and the receiver. I generally run from Romanian AKs. Only a few factories build with pride, guns that stand the test of time and heavy use without failure. And that ain’t Romania.


30 posted on 03/14/2017 12:44:20 PM PDT by jbrown7.62x39 (Holy crap. We really are gonna MAGA!! What a great time to be alive!)
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To: jbrown7.62x39

I think my SAR-1 (and I also had a SAR-2) were Century arms imports, before they hired the monkeys. The Polish Tantals by Century have VERY mixed reviews. I guess they mixed up barrels with 5.56 or something, and there was a ‘keyholing’ issue.

My SARs did have a more slanted gas block I remember. I had issues, with jamming of all things, using Wolf ammo, (both Russian, right?), but the other better brands I mention are all excellent from my experience which include a couple dozen thousand rounds.

Good luck with your business, and I hope to shop around your products!


31 posted on 03/14/2017 1:17:47 PM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: Wildbill22

Before my tragic boating accident, I owned a Norinco AK47 chambered for 5.56mm. Had six 30 round magazines for it also. I cried for days when that boar rolled over.

I’ll never go fishing with a gun again.


32 posted on 03/14/2017 2:58:31 PM PDT by american_ranger
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To: american_ranger

boar=boat


33 posted on 03/14/2017 2:59:13 PM PDT by american_ranger
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Our Apache Helicopter is stll better in my opinon...  Although cost might be the ral reason why Egypt is not looking to spend so much?

 


34 posted on 03/14/2017 3:08:28 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: american_ranger

Funny you mention that.

I had one too. Deep sea fishing for tuna off the outer banks, in a rowboat with my entire gun collection, in front of Hurricane Andrew,,, I’m lucky to be alive...


35 posted on 03/14/2017 6:14:53 PM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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