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Rand Paul introduces ObamaCare repeal alternative
The Hill ^ | March 9, 2017 | Jordain Carney

Posted on 03/09/2017 8:41:16 AM PST by HarleyLady27

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) is pushing an alternative ObamaCare repeal bill amid growing opposition to the House GOP leadership's plan.

Paul introduced a bill - known as the ObamaCare repeal bill - mirrored off a 2015 bill that cleared the Senate along party lines.

"The Republican Party is unified on Obamacare repeal," Paul said in a statement. "We can honor our promise right away by passing the same language we acted on in the last Congress."

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


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To: DoodleDawg

“So it’s a repeal that isn’t really a repeal.”

Both Ryan and Paul repeal the Obamacare mandate and taxes.


21 posted on 03/09/2017 9:01:46 AM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: HarleyLady27

The opening play of the Superbowl often stinks, but it doesn’t have much to do with how the game ends.


22 posted on 03/09/2017 9:02:08 AM PST by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: HarleyLady27

it’s not a repeal bill. They went thru reconciliation to get it passed.
It almost the same as what they are doing today, though a little more robust.

contents here

Passed Senate amended (12/03/2015)

TITLE I—HEALTH, EDUCATION, LABOR, AND PENSIONS

(Sec. 101) This bill amends the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) to terminate the Prevention and Public Health Fund, which provides for investment in prevention and public health programs to improve health and restrain the rate of growth in health care costs. Unobligated funds are rescinded.

(Sec. 102) Funding for community health centers is increased.

(Sec. 103) Certain funding for U.S. territories that establish health insurance exchanges is no longer available after 2017.

(Sec. 104) The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) may not collect fees or make payments under the transitional reinsurance program.

(Sec. 105) This bill makes appropriations for FY2016 and FY2017 for HHS to award grants to states to address substance abuse or to respond to urgent mental health needs.

TITLE II—FINANCE

(Sec. 201) This bill amends the Internal Revenue Code to require individuals to pay back the full amount of advance payments in excess of their premium assistance tax credit. (Currently, there is a limit on the amount of excess an individual must pay back.)

(Sec. 202) Provisions relating to the premium assistance tax credit, reduced cost-sharing, and eligibility determinations for these subsidies are repealed on December 31, 2017.

(Sec. 203) The small employer health insurance tax credit does not apply after 2017. (This credit is for certain employers who make contributions toward employee health coverage purchased through a health insurance exchange.)

(Sec. 204) The penalty for individuals who do not maintain minimum essential health care coverage is eliminated.

(Sec. 205) Large employers are no longer required to make shared responsibility payments.

(Sec. 206) For one year, this bill restricts the availability of federal funding to a state for payments to an entity (e.g., Planned Parenthood Federation of America) that:

is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization;
is an essential community provider primarily engaged in family planning services and reproductive health;
provides for abortions other than abortions in cases of rape or incest, or where a physical condition endangers a woman’s life unless an abortion is performed; and
received a total of more than $350 million under Medicaid in FY2014, including payments to affiliates, subsidiaries, successors, or clinics.
(Sec. 207) This bill amends part A (General Provisions) of title XI of the Social Security Act (SSAct) to require the additional payments to U.S. territories for Medicaid under the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 to be made by the end of FY2017 instead of the end of FY2019.

This bill amends title XIX (Medicaid) of the SSAct to end the expansion of Medicaid under PPACA on December 31, 2017.

After 2017, hospitals may no longer elect to provide Medicaid services to individuals during a presumptive eligibility period.

States must maintain Medicaid eligibility standards for individuals under 19 years old through FY2017 instead of through FY2019.

The federal medical assistance percentage (FMAP, the federal matching rate for Medicaid expenditures) for U.S. territories is 50% after 2017 (currently, the FMAP is 55%).

The increased FMAP for childless adults and home and community-based attendant services under PPACA ends December 31, 2017.

After 2017, states may no longer elect to provide certain individuals with a presumptive eligibility period for Medicaid.

Medicaid benchmark plans are no longer required to provide minimum essential health benefits after 2017.

After 2017, states are no longer required to operate a website for Medicaid enrollment that is linked to the state’s health benefit exchange and Children’s Health Insurance program (CHIP).

(Sec. 208) Medicaid allotments for disproportionate share hospitals are increased.

(Sec. 209) The excise tax on high cost employer-sponsored health coverage (popularly known as the “Cadillac tax”) does not apply after 2017.

(Sec. 210) Health savings accounts (HSAs), Archer medical savings accounts (MSAs), health flexible spending arrangements (HFSAs), and health reimbursement arrangements may be used to pay for over-the-counter medications.

(Sec. 211) This bill lowers the tax on distributions from HSAs and Archer MSAs that are not used for medical expenses.

(Sec. 212) Salary reduction contributions to an HFSA under a cafeteria plan are no longer limited.

(Sec. 213) The annual fee on manufacturers and importers of brand name prescription drugs is eliminated.

(Sec. 214) The excise tax on medical devices is eliminated.

(Sec. 215) The annual fee on health insurers is eliminated.

(Sec. 216) Medical costs are allowed as a tax deduction regardless of whether the costs are taken into account when determining the amount of the subsidy for an employer-sponsored retiree prescription drug plan under Medicare part D (Voluntary Prescription Drug Benefit Program).

(Sec. 217) A tax deduction is allowed for medical expenses in excess of 7.5% (currently, 10%) of adjusted gross income.

(Sec. 218) The additional Medicare tax on income above a certain threshold is eliminated.

(Sec. 219) The indoor tanning services tax is eliminated.

(Sec. 220) The net investment income tax is eliminated.

(Sec. 221) A health insurer is allowed a tax deduction for the full amount of an employee’s compensation. (Currently, there is a limit on the amount of an employee’s compensation that a health insurer may deduct.)

(Sec. 222) Provisions relating to the economic substance doctrine are repealed. (The economic substance doctrine treats a transaction as having economic substance if it has a purpose other than reducing income taxes. Currently, there are penalties for claiming tax benefits for transactions without economic substance.)

(Sec. 223) Funds are transferred from the Department of the Treasury to the Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3762


23 posted on 03/09/2017 9:03:00 AM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: eyeamok

Why in the name of God do you imagine any of your rant can get 60 votes?

Not a WORD of your silliness will be agreed to by the Dems in the Senate.

Offer up alternate verbage that can get past the Senate Parliamentarian and qualify as Reconciliation or just shut up. You’re humiliating yourself.


24 posted on 03/09/2017 9:03:01 AM PST by Owen
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To: HarleyLady27
Rand Paul introduces ObamaCare repeal alternative2.0

Fixed it.

25 posted on 03/09/2017 9:04:20 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: dynoman
So it was nothing more than a dog and pony show.

Appears so, doesn't it? If they fail to repeal now we will know for sure.

26 posted on 03/09/2017 9:04:52 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Owen
It will be filibustered now. It won’t get 60 votes. When it doesn’t get 60 votes, WHO WILL BE BLAMED THEN? RINOs? Those evil RINOs didn’t change the rules so that all GOP Senators get 2 votes?
27 posted on 03/09/2017 9:07:38 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Owen
It will be filibustered now. It won’t get 60 votes. When it doesn’t get 60 votes, WHO WILL BE BLAMED THEN? RINOs? Those evil RINOs didn’t change the rules so that all GOP Senators get 2 votes?

You only need 60 votes for cloture. Let the bastards filibuster. Let them talk until their tongues fall out. And THEN have the vote. I'm sick of everything folding up at the threat of a filibuster.

28 posted on 03/09/2017 9:08:17 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Owen

“This is pointless ranting.”

The rants seem to come from two camps:

1- Pure libertarians who want to abolish Medicaid along with Obamacare.

2- Fake conservatives who are happy with their Obamacare subsidies and don’t want them repealed.


29 posted on 03/09/2017 9:08:24 AM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: Helicondelta
Both Ryan and Paul repeal the Obamacare mandate and taxes.

Not true. Ryancare doesn't repeal the individual mandate. It revises the penalty to $0. This change is on page 83/84. It amends the Internal Revenue code 5000A and leaves the requirement for insurance in place. It remains in place because the federal penalty has been replaced with an insurance fine.

30 posted on 03/09/2017 9:08:47 AM PST by cornelis
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To: HarleyLady27

Go Rand.


31 posted on 03/09/2017 9:10:57 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: dynoman

Yup.

Most of the Democrats wearing R jerseys do not want to repeal Obamacare.
They want to change the name and some of it’s features and bugs, but they want to keep the law that puts the federal government in charge of healthcare.

It’s the structure they want to preserve.

That’s why they will not cleanly repeal it.


32 posted on 03/09/2017 9:11:00 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: LS

Thank you!!!


33 posted on 03/09/2017 9:12:37 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: Helicondelta
Both Ryan and Paul repeal the Obamacare mandate and taxes.

But retain the requirement to cover pre-existing conditions as well as the subsidies. So they keep the cost of the entitlement and ensure that coverage will cost more than before Obamacare. An improvement how?

34 posted on 03/09/2017 9:14:36 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Obama is gone, that’s why they won’t pass a repeal, it might get signed.
Fedzilla and it’s attendants LIKE Obamacare because it gives Fedzilla power.
It’s the structure most people don’t see within Obamacare that they are fighting to preserve.


35 posted on 03/09/2017 9:15:28 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Owen

SO what you’re saying is that the Republicans have never been interested in a repeal only plan and when they passed such bills in the past they were lying to us?


36 posted on 03/09/2017 9:16:20 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: pgkdan

I was talking about Rand’s bill.


37 posted on 03/09/2017 9:17:04 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: HarleyLady27
I have been wondering why Trump is ‘supporting’ Ryan's plan, and yet he met with Rand recently and now Rand introduces a competing bill. Perhaps Trump is throwing Ryan a head fake so he can smoke out those faking support for getting rid of ObamaCare. Then the hammer is lowered with Rand's bill that they all voted for in the past. Obviously if Ryan's plan won't fly and they already voted for Rand's plan, they have to go to Plan B and adopt Rand's plan. Obama is not around to veto Rand's plan so......

That said, who the heck knows what is really going on.

38 posted on 03/09/2017 9:21:26 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic ( #MAGA)
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To: Helicondelta

3 - Conservatives who want Obamacare repealed.


39 posted on 03/09/2017 9:21:27 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: DoodleDawg
I got a ton of sh!t right here on FreeRepublic back in 2010-2012 for saying the GOP was 100% on board with ObamaCare despite their unanimous "opposition" back then.

Look who's laughing now. LOL.

40 posted on 03/09/2017 9:21:52 AM PST by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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