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Largest Federal Employee Union Responds to ACA Repeal and Replace Plan
American Federation of Government Employees ^ | March 07, 2017 | National President J. David Cox Sr.

Posted on 03/07/2017 5:11:15 PM PST by mdittmar

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 07, 2017

AFGE asks President Trump to avoid ‘party politics’ in fight over the Affordable Care Act

WASHINGTON – In response to the introduction of the House’s plan to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, American Federation of Government Employees National President J. David Cox Sr. issued the following statement:

“President Trump and his allies in Congress have shown their true colors in what is yet another attack on working families. The American Health Care Act is a cruel retraction of coverage that will end up depriving millions of Americans coverage they have come to rely on.

“This new plan does not improve the Affordable Care Act. It cuts taxes for the wealthy, and makes healthcare unaffordable – and thus inaccessible – to millions who obtained coverage on the exchanges or through Medicaid expansion.

“The Affordable Care Act, for all its success, has many of the same problems federal employees are all too familiar with.  ACA was modeled on the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program (FEHBP), the health insurance program for federal employees and retirees, and like ACA, it’s expensive and doesn’t cover everybody. And like ACA, the reason it’s so expensive is that it puts private health insurers in the driver’s seat.

“AFGE has long been on record in support of ‘single payer’ national health insurance, built on the platform of Medicare. And while ACA doesn’t get all the way there, it’s better than nothing – and it’s certainly better than the proposed legislation that leaves America’s most disenfranchised behind.

“So, Mr. Ryan, if you want to replace the Affordable Care Act with something better, replace it with Medicare for all. But please, don’t just cut taxes for the wealthy and call it health care for all.”


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To: mdittmar
I work a set number of days a year.

2015 I worked x number of days...and in 2016 I worked the same amount of days.

My pay per hour did not change.

I lost $3k gross....paying for Obama Care.....And I never saw a doc...that whole time.

I'd guess many...don't pay attention...but I do.

I lost money last year...working a job.

21 posted on 03/07/2017 6:28:26 PM PST by Osage Orange (We can all live together as brothers or perish together as fools)
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To: Osage Orange

I certainly paid attention and it irked me to no end.

When it comes to doctors, I do my absolute best not to go. If I go it’s either unknown and/or something I can’t deal with.


22 posted on 03/07/2017 6:31:51 PM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: JoSixChip

“And this is not what Trump promised.”

He promised this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ULSN70tuo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwN6sU4onFQ


23 posted on 03/07/2017 6:44:46 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: mdittmar

Government employees should not have a union. This is not the old Soviet Union. This is America.


24 posted on 03/07/2017 7:00:49 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it. - Clint Eastwood)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The problem with public unions is they can bribe the politicians who vote for their benefits. In private industry you can’t bribe the CEO of the company you work for.

After the unions get the city council or governor they want they get better pay and benefits (case in point Cal salaries and pensions) then they raise the dues and bribe more politicians. it’s a cycle of bribery and the pols who are supposed to represent the people work for the union. Saw this all the time when I worked in Sacto for 17 years. I saw a union rep go into the speaker of the assembly’s office an type legislation into the bill system. Gray Davis used to charge 100,000 to come into his office for a private meeting.


25 posted on 03/07/2017 7:05:58 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

YOU SHOULDN’T BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAMPAIGN OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO APPROVE YOUR UNION CONTRACT.


26 posted on 03/07/2017 7:07:35 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: mdittmar

F the government employees and the federal employees credit union.

At least now if they can’t afford coverage they wont get fined like Obama care did.


27 posted on 03/07/2017 7:17:58 PM PST by funfan
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To: mdittmar

Put Congress under the same plan as the rest-uv-us


28 posted on 03/07/2017 8:07:55 PM PST by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Ronald Reagan speaks from beyond the grave to denounce Socialized Medicine:

Back in 1927 an American socialist, Norman Thomas, six times candidate for president on the Socialist Party ticket, said the American people would never vote for socialism. But he said under the name of liberalism the American people will adopt every fragment of the socialist program.

There are many ways in which our government has invaded the precincts of private citizens, method of earning a living; our government is in business to the extent of owning more than 19,000 businesses covering 47 different lines of activity. This amounts to a fifth of the total industrial capacity of the United States.

But at the moment I would like to talk about another way because this threat is with us, and at the moment, is more imminent.

One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine.

It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project, most people are a little reluctant to oppose anything that suggests medical care for people who possibly can’t afford it.

Now, the American people, if you put it to them about socialized medicine and gave them a chance to choose, would unhesitatingly vote against it. We had an example of this. Under the Truman administration it was proposed that we have a compulsory health insurance program for all people in the United States, and, of course, the American people unhesitatingly rejected this.

So with the American people on record as not wanting socialized medicine, Congressman Ferrand introduced the Ferrand bill. This was the idea that all people of Social Security age, should be brought under a program of compulsory health insurance. Now this would not only be our senior citizens, this would be the dependents and those that are disabled, this would be young people if they are dependents of someone eligible for social security.

Now , Congressman Ferrand, brought the program out on that idea out , on just for that particular group of people. But Congressman Ferrand was subscribing to this foot-in-the door philosophy, because he said, “If we can only break through and get our foot inside the door, then we can expand the program after that.

Walter Ruther said, “It’s no secret that the United Automobile Workers is officially on record of backing a program of national health insurance. And by national health insurance, he meant socialized medicine for every American.

Well, let us see what the socialists themselves have to say about it. They say once the Ferrand bill is passed this nation will be provided with a mechanism for socialized medicine capable of indefinite expansion in every direction until it includes the entire population. Now we can’t say we haven’t been warned.

Now Congressman Ferrand is no longer a Congressman of the United States government. He has been replaced, not in his particular assignment, but in his backing of such a bill by Congressman King of California. It is presented in the idea of a great emergency that millions of our senior citizens are unable to provide needed medical care. But this ignores that fact that in the last decade, 127 million of our citizens, in just 10 years, have come under the protection of some form of privately owned medical or hospital insurance.

Now the advocates of this bill when you try to oppose it challenge you on an emotional basis. They say, "What would you do? Throw these poor people out to die with no medical attention?”

That’s ridiculous and of course no one is advocating it. As a matter of fact, in the last session of Congress a bill was adopted known as the Kerr/Mills bill. Now without even allowing this bill to be tried to see if it works, they have introduced this King bill, which is really the Ferrand bill.

What is the Kerr/Mills bill? It is a frank recognition of the medical need or problem of the senior citizens I have mentioned and it has provided from the federal government, money to the states and the local communities that can be used at the discretion of the state to help those people who need it.

Now what reason could the other people have for backing a bill which says we insist on compulsory health insurance for senior citizens on a basis of age alone regardless of whether they are worth millions of dollars, whether they have an income, whether they are protected by their own insurance, whether they have savings.

I think we can be excused for believing that as ex-congressman Ferrand said, this was simply an excuse to bring about what they wanted all the time -- socialized medicine.

James Madison in 1788 speaking to the Virginia convention said, “Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”

They want to attach this bill to Social Security and they say here is a great insurance program; now instituted, now working.

Let’s take a look at Social Security itself. Again, very few of us disagree with the original premise that there should be some form of savings that would keep destitution from following unemployment by reason of death, disability or old age. And to this end, Social Security was adopted, but it was never intended to supplant private savings, private insurance, pension programs of unions and industries.

Now in our country under our free-enterprise system we have seen medicine reach the greatest heights that it has in any country in the world. Today, the relationship between patient and doctor in this country is something to be envied any place. The privacy, the care that is given to a person, the right to chose a doctor, the right to go from one doctor to the other.

But let’s also look from the other side. The freedom the doctor uses. A doctor would be reluctant to say this. Well, like you, I am only a patient, so I can say it in his behalf. The doctor begins to lose freedoms, it’s like telling a lie. One leads to another. First you decide the doctor can have so many patients. They are equally divided among the various doctors by the government, but then the doctors are equally divided geographically, so a doctor decides he wants to practice in one town and the government has to say to him he can’t live in that town, they already have enough doctors. You have to go some place else. And from here it is only a short step to dictating where he will go.

This is a freedom that I wonder if any of us has a right to take from any human being. I know how I’d feel if you my fellow citizens, decided that to be an actor I had to be a government employee and work in a national theater. Take it into your own occupation or that of your husband. All of us can see what happens once you establish the precedent that the government can determine a man’s working place and his working methods, determine his employment. From here it's a short step to all the rest of socialism, to determining his pay and pretty soon your son won’t decide when he’s in school where he will go or what he will do for a living. He will wait for the government to tell him where he will go to work and what he will do.

In this country of ours, took place the greatest revolution that has ever taken place in the world’s history; the only true revolution. Every other revolution simply exchanged one set of rulers for another. But here, for the first time in all the thousands of years of man’s relations to man, a little group of men, the founding fathers, for the first time, established the idea that you and I had within ourselves the God given right and ability to determine our own destiny. This freedom was built into our government with safeguards. We talk democracy today, and strangely, we let democracy begin to assume the aspect of majority rule is all that is needed. The “majority rule” is a fine aspect of democracy provided there are guarantees written in to our government concerning the rights of the individual and of the minorities.

What can we do about this? Well, you and I can do a great deal. We can write to our congressmen and to our senators. We can say right now that we want no further encroachment on these individual liberties and freedoms. And at the moment, the key issue is, we do not want socialized medicine.

In Washington today, 40 thousand letters, less than 100 per congressman are evidence of a trend in public thinking.

Representative Hallock of Indiana has said, “When the American people wants something from Congress, regardless of its political complexion, if they make their wants known, Congress does what the people want."

So write, and if this man writes back to you and tells you that he too is for free enterprise, that we have these great services and so forth, that must be performed by government, don’t let him get away with it.

Show that you have not been convinced. Write a letter right back and tell him that you believe government economy and fiscal responsibility, that you know governments don’t tax to get the money they need; governments will always find a need for the money they get and that you demand the continuation of our free enterprise system.

You and I can do this. The only way we can do it is by writing to our congressmen even we believe that he's on our side to begin with. Write to strengthen his hand. Give him the ability to stand before his colleagues in Congress and say that he has heard from my constituents and this is what they want. Write those letters now call your friends and them to write.

If you don’t, this program I promise you, will pass just as surely as the sun will come up tomorrow and behind it will come other federal programs that will invade every area of freedom as we have known it in this country until one day as Normal Thomas said we will wake to find that we have socialism, and if you don’t do this and I don’t do this, one of these days we are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children, what it once was like in America when men were free.

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"Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. ... We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting people to eat because we do not want the state to raise the grain."
-- Frédéric Bastiat, The Law, 1849
29 posted on 03/07/2017 8:11:07 PM PST by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: marygam

Tell the Demcracktivists to shut their mouths. Nancy Pelosi told them to pass the bill so we can find out what is in it.

They don’t get ANY say this time around since they were cool with that approach last time.


30 posted on 03/07/2017 8:12:48 PM PST by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: mdittmar

31 posted on 03/07/2017 11:49:34 PM PST by vikingrinn
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To: mdittmar

“coverage they have come to rely on.”

are they paying for it themselves? or “relying on” subsidy, exemption, special treatment?


32 posted on 03/08/2017 2:00:44 AM PST by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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Public unions should be outlawed.


33 posted on 03/08/2017 2:01:44 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: a fool in paradise

I could not agree more on this point. Fix it, present a new bill, rework it to acceptability....then ram it through quickly. Let chips fall where they may!


34 posted on 03/08/2017 3:48:53 AM PST by marygam (can this country do a U turn and be great again?)
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