Posted on 03/03/2017 8:09:14 AM PST by GIdget2004
It would be nice if they would call the inauguration of Trump the dawning of a new day when personal envy isn’t a policy.
You didn’t address the point.
A rich man in the US lives 15 more years than a poor man.
The US govt is responsible for preventing people from dying early deaths to warfare. The US govt is responsible for preventing people from dying early deaths to deadly organisms in the food supply.
It’s not a non conservative thing for the gov’t to address early deaths of citizens who live in the US due to lack of healthcare.
Of course it’s an entitlement. The democrats have won, at least with regard to health care. They have won the battle for how too many Americans look at health care, i.e., that health care is now viewed by much of the public as a “right”. Once the Republican leadership accepted this premise, there was no way they were going to return to an actual market based approach. They don’t have what it takes to stand and face all the “sob stories” that would certainly pour out if they insisted, as they should, that people with pre-existing conditions should have to be placed in high risk pools. But, no, now that Obamacare has “entitled” them to taxpayer subsidies, that is the way it’s going to be going forward, and they have to get the money from somewhere, so they’ll stick it to “the rich”.
First of all, flood the medical schools with willing and able students of every age. Do it now and we will see dividends by Trump’s second turn.
Second, restore transactional medicine. Make it so that a $50 copayment is just that - it pays the dr, he sees me, he writes a $10 Rx copayment. The end.
Tax credits are not “entitlements.” Paying into Social Security against your will for 50 years with the quid pro quo being a small retirement check each month IS AN ENTITLEMENT. Ditto with VA Benefits and retirements - they were earned.
About everything else from SNAP cards, to TANIF, to extra education “stipends” for you supposedly ADHD kid is a generous handout. I am not against handouts per se, but I am against mislabeling them as “entitlements.”
Free money from the government that you get regardless of whether you pay taxes or not is certainly an entitlement.
Perhaps it's Darwin's effect. The type of people that choose to work hard, are smart, and capable of gaining wealth are also the ones that choose to get the heck out of south Chicago and become a productive citizen. Wealth is not an innate characteristic. It's a result of behavior.
In the interests of confusing the ENTIRE matter, keep in mind that the Federal Reserve destroyed the integrity of the CONCEPT of money by printing 4 Trillion dollars over the past 8 yrs.
So all our arguments about tax credits and entitlements . . . they are an argument about a substance created whimsically from thin air. Why are we arguing? It’s obviously meaningless.
Which amendment guarantees these things?
Hard work didn’t do it.
The rich may inherit. They may . . . often . . . just throw darts at the WSJ stock page and hit it big. They may win a lottery (same thing).
When the Fed started QE, the concept of hard work leading to riches went out the window. All that noble perspective of rewards for personal effort went away and it’s never ever ever coming back. 4 Trillion dollars. 25% of US GDP, printed via QE in just 8 years. The ECB and BOJ are STILL printing money.
No, we’ve lost that. Forever. Becoming rich is in no way a measure of merit anymore.
I believe there is one about providing for the common defense.
“Tax credits are not “entitlements.”
Well, IMO they are, if they only go to people below a certain income level, because the “rich” don’t get them and the money they would have gotten instead go to others, simply because they are not “rich”. It’s a sneaky redistribution tactic.
That means guarding the borders, not guaranteeing free health care for deadbeats.
good! Since the rich folks are bringing in
demm votes from mexico and since they control the media they no longer deserve tax breaks. socialism is only cool for them when they do not pay the taxes to support it.
Owen, I like your heart, but not your position on this issue.
The rich live longer on the whole, principally because of lifestyle choices they make. (This is not an alternative fact.) Lots of exceptions. Lots of poor people delay against their will, life saving medical care. Lots of rich people die early . . . Hollywood stars and stressed out attorneys to name just two.
So stats, don’t show the whole picture. We do need a safety net that is compassionate, reasonably affordable to the recipient and the taxpayers footing the bill, but encourages personal responsibility as opposed to irresponsibility. SO? . . . Good Luck to us all in finding that!
What a load of feel good b.s.
If they want to live longer due to a better lifestyle perhaps instead of trying to steal Health Care Insurance/benefits earned from working saps under the threat of a Government thug (taxes), they get off their ASSES and EARN IT?
I busted my backside working and going to College to put myself in a position to be recruited by Employers with a Decent wage and benefit package.
Just because they were too freaking lazy to put the effort in to do the same gives NO ONE a RIGHT to demand I share what I worked for and they didn’t.
Your argument is a straw man for redistribution of Wealth and is not in ANY WAY Conservative.
LYIN RYANS bill NEEDS to go down in FLAMES!!!! Freedom Caucus bill with Rand and Price on board NEEDS to go forward!!! Rand is walking up and down the halls of congress with a copy machine trying to FIND the bill which NO ONE has SEEN!!! Just hysterical!!! I HATE LYIN RYAN the BACKSTABBING BASTARD!!!
“Redistribution” they are! But what in the world makes people “entitled” to them. It has to be more than merely being an oxygen breather. It has to be more than just showing up at the welfare window.
You become “entitled” to something you EARN. I refuse to let the LEFTIST change the meaning of this word, too. (See for example the words “illegal alien” to “undocumented immigrant” or “homosexual” to “gay.”) Words have meaning and should be used and not abused by the Left.
#30 If what you claim is true in that post explain to me why the freeloaders are still wanting others to pay for their free stuff.
Knock off the class envy crap. Most that are Middle class to upper middle class that will pay for all these freebies got their working their back sides off.
Your posts are right out of D.U.
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