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H.R. McMaster Breaks With Administration on Views of Islam (Won't Say Radical Islamic Terrorism)
New York Times ^ | February 24, 2017 | By MARK LANDLER and ERIC SCHMITT

Posted on 02/24/2017 10:14:20 PM PST by Pinkbell

WASHINGTON — President Trump’s newly appointed national security adviser has told his staff that Muslims who commit terrorist acts are perverting their religion, rejecting a key ideological view of other senior Trump advisers and signaling a potentially more moderate approach to the Islamic world.

The adviser, Lt. Gen. H. R. McMaster, told the staff of the National Security Council on Thursday, in his first “all hands” staff meeting, that the label “radical Islamic terrorism” was not helpful because terrorists are “un-Islamic,” according to people who were in the meeting.

That is a repudiation of the language regularly used by both the president and General McMaster’s predecessor, Michael T. Flynn, who resigned last week after admitting that he had misled Vice President Mike Pence and other officials about a phone call with a Russian diplomat.

It is also a sign that General McMaster, a veteran of the Iraq war known for his sense of history and independent streak, might move the council away from the ideologically charged views of Mr. Flynn, who was also a three-star Army general before retiring.

Wearing his Army uniform, General McMaster spoke to a group that has been rattled and deeply demoralized after weeks of upheaval, following a haphazard transition from the Obama administration and amid the questions about links to Russia, which swiftly engulfed Mr. Flynn.

General McMaster, several officials said, has been vocal about his views on dealing with Islamic militancy, including with Mr. Trump, who on Monday described him as “a man of tremendous talent, tremendous experience.” General McMaster got the job after Mr. Trump’s first choice, Robert S. Harward, a retired Navy vice admiral, turned it down.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mcmaster; mcmasterisis; nationalsecurity; nsa; nsc; radicalislam; third100days; trump; trump45; trumpnsc
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To: Pinkbell

McMaster has sent so many Muzzies to be with Allah he doesn’t shive a git what you want to call them. More #fakenews from the Slimes.


41 posted on 02/24/2017 10:44:52 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it. - Clint Eastwood)
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To: Jyotishi

Further verifying this article. Thanks!


42 posted on 02/24/2017 10:46:24 PM PST by Pinkbell (http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2016/11/cnn-lies-multiple-times-to-help-hillary.html)
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To: Fantasywriter
Here's another clue: Donald J. TrumpVerified account‏@realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago FAKE NEWS media knowingly doesn't tell the truth. A great danger to our country. The failing @nytimes has become a joke. Likewise @CNN. Sad!
43 posted on 02/24/2017 10:46:28 PM PST by TexasCruzin (Trump is the man. #TrumpPence16)
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To: Pinkbell

I heard that HR Puffnstuff was a never trumper, but can’t confirm..


44 posted on 02/24/2017 10:48:26 PM PST by proust (Trump / Pence 2016!)
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To: Pinkbell

if you or someone can publish exactly what mcmaster believes islam is (especially vis-a-vis Christianity), then i’ll be in a better position to make a judgment on his

(1) understanding of the problem (assuming he believes there’s a problem) and

(2) how he’ll perform “fixing” the problem.


45 posted on 02/24/2017 10:49:09 PM PST by dadfly
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To: Pinkbell

Or it’s an unnamed source playing off something McMaster said before joining the Trump administration to create a false narrative re something the NYT claims he said after joining. You don’t know which it is, because Trump himself has identified the NYT as Fake News.


46 posted on 02/24/2017 10:51:03 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Pinkbell

Trump has said that accepts that many of his advisers will have different views than he does, and it remains to be seen whether McMaster’s views are a matter of strategic calculation or genuine belief. If the latter, he is a fool.


47 posted on 02/24/2017 10:51:47 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: TexasCruzin

+1

Thank you, and let’s hear from Trump again on the subject:

@realDonaldTrump

“Anytime you see a story about me or my campaign saying ‘sources said,’ DO NOT believe it. There are no sources, they are just made up lies!”


48 posted on 02/24/2017 10:54:38 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Rockingham
Trump has said that accepts that many of his advisers will have different views than he does, and it remains to be seen whether McMaster’s views are a matter of strategic calculation or genuine belief.

It's a semantic distinction more than anything else. I don't think there are any practical policy differences which would hinge on such variations in nomenclature...

49 posted on 02/24/2017 10:58:32 PM PST by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: Pinkbell

Why is this guy in this position? Eiter someones ot vetting these folks right or someone’s lying when asked about their views and how they line up with Trumps.


50 posted on 02/24/2017 10:58:50 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Fantasywriter

Yes you’re welcome and there you have it.


51 posted on 02/24/2017 11:00:12 PM PST by TexasCruzin (Trump is the man. #TrumpPence16)
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To: Fantasywriter
Well, I'll be very happy if McMaster and Trump comes out and clarifies. At this point, I find it plausible because we have two separate sources (one conservative and one liberal) from two separate times. We also have this:

“We are engaged today, as General George C. Marshall’s generation was engaged, against enemies who pose a great threat to all civilized peoples. As our World War II generation defeated Nazi Fascism and Japanese imperialism, and as later generations defeated Communist totalitarianism, we will defeat today’s enemies, including terrorist organizations like Daesh, who cynically use a perverted interpretation of religion to incite hatred and justify horrific cruelty against innocents.” — Lt. Gen. H. R. McMaster, speech to Virginia Military Institute, Center for Leadership and Excellence, November 21, 2016

Then in this video from May 2016, McMaster says this same thing. At 14:43, McMaster refers to “groups like ISIL, who use this irreligious ideology, this perverted interpretation of religion to justify violence. They depend on ignorance, and the ability to recruit vulnerable segments of populations  to foment hatred, and then use that hatred to justify violence against innocents.”

Those are Obama/Kerry terms.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/02/robert-spencer-in-frontpage-the-mcmaster-pick-score-one-for-the-swamp

We have the left and the MSM approving of this pick as well. Trump can clarify this, and I do hope these sources are wrong, but agai

52 posted on 02/24/2017 11:04:32 PM PST by Pinkbell (http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2016/11/cnn-lies-multiple-times-to-help-hillary.html)
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To: TexasCruzin

See posts 29 and 52.


53 posted on 02/24/2017 11:05:54 PM PST by Pinkbell (http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2016/11/cnn-lies-multiple-times-to-help-hillary.html)
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To: Pinkbell

I’ve heard Trump call it political Islam. That may turn out to be the middle ground.


54 posted on 02/24/2017 11:07:15 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Pinkbell

Ugh. This is really unfortunate. Trump should have just left Gen. Kellogg, who was the interim NSA, in the position. He was with Trump from the start. We don’t need any more mealy-mouthed neo-cons in power.


55 posted on 02/24/2017 11:09:21 PM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: itsahoot

Madness? If you believe everything the NY Times spits out, yes, madness.

Let’s wait to see the story confirmed by more reputable sources.


56 posted on 02/24/2017 11:09:56 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: lodi90

Read his book and see if you still think he is someone who would be “an Obama general”.

McMaster is extremely aware of the danger of currying the favor of Presidents- that’s a major lesson from his book- and he is as far from a careerist as you can get. His book didn’t endear him to those in power and most likely cost him one star.

We have Arab allies in the war against ISIS and we need their cooperation. McMaster knows these leaders just like Mattis does, and Mattis is just as cautious in his language as McMaster. No one is complaining about Mattis.

There is nothing to be gained by having them disparage the religion of the people they will personally be working with. It isn’t going to bother Trump if they don’t join in saying Radical Islamic Terrorism, Trump has more sense than that. He isn’t hiring them to be his spokesmen.


57 posted on 02/24/2017 11:10:40 PM PST by Pelham (Liberate Occupied California. Prosecute Sanctuary enablers. Deportation now!)
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To: Fantasywriter; TexasCruzin
We have this as well from a leftist at Politico:

By WILLIAM MCCANTS February 23, 2017 http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/mcmaster-has-the-islamophobes-worried-good-214815

When America’s most influential Islamophobes are upset, you know the president made a good choice. “Score one [for] the swamp,” whined Robert Spencer upon hearing the news that Donald Trump appointed Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster to be his national security adviser. Spencer makes a living scaring Americans about the dangers of Muslim soccer moms. “John Bolton lost out to this guy?” sputtered his frequent partner in whine, Pamela Geller, who scoffed at the general for saying, “Every time you disrespect an Iraqi, you’re working for the enemy.”

The Islamophobes are not wrong to sense that McMaster will be hostile to their worldview, according to those who know him best…… “He absolutely does not view Islam as the enemy,” said Pete Mansoor, who served with McMaster in Iraq…..

58 posted on 02/24/2017 11:11:43 PM PST by Pinkbell (http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2016/11/cnn-lies-multiple-times-to-help-hillary.html)
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To: Pinkbell

Nothing wrong with any of the quotes.

Here is video of McMaster killing terrorists:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb7aR2xvOWU

So he is soft and you know better?


59 posted on 02/24/2017 11:12:20 PM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: Spiridon

Man, I hate it when our people use ISIS’s preferred name for themselves. Why do them such honor? It’s even worse than saying ISIL.


60 posted on 02/24/2017 11:14:01 PM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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