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Just what really IS going on in Sweden?
Article from Sweden's DN.sthlm reposted on Hotair ^ | 02/22/2017 | Article from Sweden's DN.sthlm reposted by Taylor Millard

Posted on 02/22/2017 9:13:45 PM PST by SeekAndFind

So what is going on in Sweden? Fox News and other sites make it sound like Sweden has burst into chaos with immigrants going nuts at a police arrest, and no go zones for police. The New York Times and The Washington Post claim Rinkeby, the site of the riot, is economically depressed, but the entire situation is a blip on the radar. The Swedish media…well it depends on the outlet.

Two other major Swedish outlets seem more interested in the fact the American press went nuts over the riots. Expressen had an entire article dedicated to the American coverage of the riots, while Svenska Dabladet focused more on the response by supporters of President Donald Trump.

The most “just the facts” coverage appears to be from Dagens Nyheter. DN called what happened Monday a “rowdy evening,” which took four hours for police to get a handle on. It all started when someone was being arrested for drugs, but how it spiraled into violence we don’t really know. One witness told DN officers failed to do their duty by not protecting a DN photographer from being attacked. Google Translate isn’t perfect from Swedish to English, so bear with any grammatical errors.

Eventually interrupted the assault and the perpetrators dispersed. DN’s photographer was as bloody and dazed, but he could get up and get in the way to his car. His camera equipment had one or some of the attackers had stolen.

Chaima Hakam, who runs a small shop in Rinkeby Square, is sharply critical of the actions of the police. According to her, they sat there in their vehicles, both during the beating and the continued violent events.

– I called 112 and told about the beating. Yet no police came onto the square. Later I understood that they had been left in their cars all the time. It’s unbelievable that they chose to be passive when there was a war here on the square!

DN also reported police officers aren’t really happy with how the handling of riot went.

Even among the police officers who were sent to fotpatrullera day after the devastation noticeable frustration. Police management in Stockholm has decided that all media contacts to be managed centrally, and few dare to speak by name.

I think we did wrong. We go into the offensive right time troublemakers do not prepare. Now it becomes instead the receiving power, says one of them.

Area Police Hanif Azizi sighs heavily between meetings with angry villagers Rink.

There is so much anger, you do not understand why we can not arrest them doing this. I say that management may have had specific information that made you not want to go into. But my role as district police undermined when I can not give any good answer.

It should be pointed out police aren’t saying why “management” would tell officers not to do any arrests. It’s possible police brass decided to let the rioters peter out, much like Baltimore appears to have done after Freddie Gray’s death. The so-called “blue wall of silence” apparently exists overseas, as well as in America.

Interior Minister Anders Ygeman believes an increased police presence in Rinkeby is to blame for the riots. Via DN and Google Translate:

The police are acting aggressively and it disrupts the criminal element in the area who do their best to stop this police operation but they fail because the police succeed in the arrest, he said.

He defends himself against that events would reflect lawlessness and that the police have lost control of the suburbs of Rinkeby.

– Then they had not been there and arresting people. This is about the police have increased their presence and then you get a backlash from the criminals. The police will backfire, says Anders Ygeman.

Continue to increase the number of police in the suburbs is his main prescription to increase security in the suburbs.

Rinkeby itself does appear to be the kind of place not a ton of people like visiting. There was a double murder over the weekend, and one woman told DN the neighborhood is bad because of the economy.

I am of course sorry for what happened, but not surprised. There are so many frustrated young men in Rinkeby. They get no jobs and have nothing to look forward to, says Nagata who is a nurse.

– Rinkeby has become isolated from the rest of the world. There is little opportunity to get out of here. It is a dangerous development, she says.

It almost sounds like Rinkeby is just economically depressed, and in a cycle where no one thinks they’ll be able to get out. There are obviously people who will immediately jump towards the fact the population is mostly immigrant, and the rumors of “no go zones,” but Lars Korsell with the Department for Economic and Organized Crime in Crime Prevention Council said in 2015 it was an economic issue. Via Forskning & Framsteg:

“It’s about socio-economically disadvantaged areas where there are many from other countries. The police have been very difficult to work there. When it committed crimes there so many do not want to testify, which makes policing extremely difficult.”

He places the blame on the early 1990’s biker gangs for the rise in crime in Sweden, plus people from the Balkans, and, yes, Middle Eastern criminals. But the fact the gangs put themselves in economically disadvantaged areas is pretty important. It should be remembered there are poor white communities in the U.S. which struggle with drug abuse and poverty. The Atlantic and Pro Publica have a pretty good (if not long) summary of the struggles of poor white folks in America. Alec Macgillis’ theory falls along economic lines:

But far more striking is the general aura of decline that hangs over towns in which medical-supply stores and pawn shops dominate decrepit main streets, and Victorians stand crumbling, unoccupied. Talk with those still sticking it out, the body-shop worker and the dollar-store clerk and the unemployed miner, and the fatalism is clear: Things were much better in an earlier time, and no future awaits in places that have been left behind by polished people in gleaming cities. The most painful comparison is not with supposedly ascendant minorities—it’s with the fortunes of one’s own parents or, by now, grandparents. The demoralizing effect of decay enveloping the place you live cannot be underestimated.

The old FX show Justified, along with some of the short stories Elmore Leonard wrote, looked at crime in the poorer areas of Kentucky and the Dixie Mafia. Harlan does have a bit of a speckled history, even if it was obviously exaggerated in the show and books. It would be interesting to find out if the crime rates of Harlan and, say, Dallas or Philadelphia were almost equal, even if the numbers would be far greater in the larger cities, compared to the smaller ones. Harlan is only being used as an example, and I’m not trying to imply it’s some crime-riddled hellhole, so cool your jets before getting angry.

It’s certainly possible Rinkeby’s issues are all because of immigration, but I have a sneaking suspicion the poor economy and police crackdown on crime are probably more of a factor. The solution is more market-oriented, and won’t involve the government either handing out benefits to the population or using taxpayer funds to bribe larger businesses. The people are either going to have to take a risk and move to other part of Stockholm or some businessman is going to have to risk opening a company in the area. That’s really the best solution to the economic problem.



TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: bloggers; hijrah; immigration; lastnightinsweden; riots; sweden; trump
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1 posted on 02/22/2017 9:13:46 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Mears

bump


2 posted on 02/22/2017 9:15:48 PM PST by Mears
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To: SeekAndFind

Invasion.


3 posted on 02/22/2017 9:18:10 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is this article machine translated from another language? Because it sure seems like it. Really incoherent.


4 posted on 02/22/2017 9:24:38 PM PST by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Clintoonie called it “The Arab Spring”.


5 posted on 02/22/2017 9:29:34 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it. - Clint Eastwood)
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To: SeekAndFind

“It should be pointed out police aren’t saying why “management” would tell officers not to do any arrests.”

Giving space to destroy.


6 posted on 02/22/2017 9:32:05 PM PST by aquila48
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To: Mears

My wife has friends in the city of Malmo, Sweden and they say that their lifestyle has completely changed for the worse due to the immigrant situation. They also say there are now crimes constantly.


7 posted on 02/22/2017 9:33:15 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (Even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The people are either going to have to take a risk and move to other part of Stockholm or some businessman is going to have to risk opening a company in the area.

why does some (outside preferably swede) businessman have to take a risk? Maybe a better question to ask first is, why aren't enterpreneurs amongst the immigrants bubbling to the surface in a thousand tiny bubbles to employ themselves and their neighbors? What is different in their collective mindset from the mindset of, say, Euro migrants that went to Africa in the 1800s to carve out farms from swamps, or even early settlers of the West? If they are not productive, if welfare is how they want to live, how does it benefit the country in which they remain?

8 posted on 02/22/2017 9:36:38 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: SeekAndFind

“It should be remembered there are poor white communities in the U.S. which struggle with drug abuse and poverty.”

Yes, and they’re constantly rioting, and causing mayhem.


9 posted on 02/22/2017 9:38:35 PM PST by aquila48
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To: Monterrosa-24

I have Jewish fiends who live there andthey say it is much worse than reported even by Fox. They are in constant fear for their lives. They stay there to make sure that the Jewish presence stays there and not be erased as it has been in so many countries.


10 posted on 02/22/2017 9:47:23 PM PST by richardtavor
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To: Monterrosa-24

Malmo was an industrialized city, that went through upswings and downswings in the economy over the past sixty years. Each upswing brought migration folks and cheap labor. Normally, a downswing would cause the migrants to leave...but they’ve got benefits now and there is little necessity in packing up and looking for work elsewhere.

Official Swedish unemployment is 8-percent. Malmo is around 15-percent. Like the US numbers...after a while, you fall off the count-list. So, the real unemployment around Malmo might be near 25-percent. No one from the government talks about this angle of the issue.

Before anyone gets piped up over Muslim issues...there are close to 100 nationalities in Malmo. Various neighborhoods are ‘owned’ by individual groups. Just like in NY City....there is Little-X and Little-Y communities now in existence.

What quietly happened here (going back to the 1980s)....is that Swedes in the various neighborhoods realized the change of character and packed up to leave. More and more Swedes are 10 to 50 kilometers outside of Malmo and using the rail service or driving in. Just like in the US....since they couldn’t fix the problem, they removed themselves from the shadow of the city and just drive in. Some say the city is now roughly 40-percent migrant/immigrant....but that’s based on people now living outside of the town for the most part.

Cops? There’s a trend underway where the cops are retiring early or quitting. No respect by the migrants. No respect by the political entities. Cops tend to work in two-man teams. If you get a call at night to go into a no-go zone....you only go with several teams banded together and the strategy resembles the same method that the US Army would use in Iraq...take and arrest the target person, and quickly leave the area. It’s the only safe manner to conduct police operations. Politicians are too stupid to realize the impact.

The riot from the other night in Rinkeby? It was simply created by the cops arresting some punk kid who was dealing drugs near or in the subway station of Rinkeby. His buddies...all from Rinkeby housing project (the ghetto)...got all upset and tried to make an assault on the cops arresting their thug-buddy. The Swedish cop fired off one-round to get their attention...into the air. They backed off....cops left with their arrested punk.

After that, the ‘gang’ decided they were angry, and went and burned six vehicles from their own neighborhood (their neighbors are all poor and migrant as well). No one in the ghetto was assaulted in this two hour period.

Then, one single journalist shows up (note, ONE). This guy parks his car far enough away to avoid it being burned (he was that smart). He is seen by the gang...beat up...and his camera stolen. He gets up...walks over to the ghetto gas station (24-hour place) and tries to get the cops to come. Cops say that they got a lot of stuff going on...couple hours later, they arrive at the gas station and fill out a report. Other than that...they don’t care to get involved.

This suburb of Rinkeby? It was designed in the mid-60s to be an affordable housing area for Swedish middle-income folks....massive downturn in the economy came as it was built, and so it was not ever used as planned. Decade goes by....economy goes back up...migrants start to arrive for the jobs...and they flip this perfectly designed ghetto into their hands.

You can look at every single detail of Rinkeby and it’s housing project concept...it looks just like the neighborhoods in Chicago and NY....built to precise detail to be a low-income ghetto. Close to 18,000 in this area.

It was screwed up long before Trump ever said a word, and it’ll be there for decades after Trump.


11 posted on 02/22/2017 9:53:02 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Theo
I guess you missed this:

Google Translate isn’t perfect from Swedish to English, so bear with any grammatical errors.

3rd paragraph down, last sentence (just before the first gray translation box).

I think they understated the horrible translation job, LOL.

12 posted on 02/22/2017 9:53:30 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: richardtavor

How far the line of the mighty Vikings of old who once held all of Europe in Terror has fallen.


13 posted on 02/22/2017 9:54:10 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3317978/Torn-apart-open-door-migrants-Sweden-seen-Europe-s-liberal-nation-violent-crime-soaring-Far-Right-march-reports-SUE-REID.html

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/meanwhile-rioting-breaks-out-sweden


14 posted on 02/22/2017 9:58:00 PM PST by Jackson Brown
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To: pepsionice

But the reality is that it is there because of the drive for cheap labor. The bottom line is you end up with what you paid for. In this case ghettos of immigrants, that has been exacerbated by the continual influx of immigrants that are really an invasion who want to take over, and not assimilate, that no one wants to admit.


15 posted on 02/22/2017 9:58:26 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: SeekAndFind
From the article:

It’s certainly possible Rinkeby’s issues are all because of immigration, but I have a sneaking suspicion the poor economy and police crackdown on crime are probably more of a factor. The solution is more market-oriented, and won’t involve the government either handing out benefits to the population or using taxpayer funds to bribe larger businesses. The people are either going to have to take a risk and move to other part of Stockholm or some businessman is going to have to risk opening a company in the area. That’s really the best solution to the economic problem.

The immigration is absolutely the cause of Rinkeby’s issues. They allowed far more immigration then they had opportunities to support that immigration. Because of the drive for cheap labor at the expense of citizens already there. Giving absolutely no consideration whatsoever of whom they were allowing to immigrate. You should only allow those who want to assimilate, but that is not the case with the immigrants they are letting in. On top of that they are not limiting that immigration , and over immigration brings bad results. Over immigration of those who wish to take over, is not only bad, it is committing suicide.

16 posted on 02/22/2017 10:05:25 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: pepsionice

Very good summary. Thanks.


17 posted on 02/22/2017 10:14:49 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: SeekAndFind
Angry Foreigner's take. He's a little odd, but he's there and independent.
18 posted on 02/22/2017 10:14:51 PM PST by Trod Upon (Government employees and welfare recipients are both net tax consumers. Often for life.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does Sweden still take in immigrants, esp. from Moslem countries, and if so why when there is often no work for them?

Just asking for “No Go Zones”, drug gangs, criminal gangs, and jihadist recruiting efforts.

Would make sense to me if I were a Swede, but I’m not.


19 posted on 02/22/2017 10:30:45 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Theo

It’s explained in the article that “Google Translate isn’t perfect from Swedish to English, so bear with any grammatical errors”.


20 posted on 02/22/2017 10:32:46 PM PST by Bullish (May as well just rename Hollywood---> Hypocrite city)
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