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Excited reports of 'habitable planets' need to come back down to Earth
Space Daily ^ | Feb 22, 2017 | Joshua Tan

Posted on 02/22/2017 3:26:41 PM PST by Salman

In 1950, physicist Enrico Fermi famously asked, "Where are they?" as a kind of lament about the lack of observational evidence for alien intelligence in our universe. Today, the question is still asked in the context of the always-hoped-for discovery of other worlds like our own, with the thought that maybe, just maybe, we will finally find those aliens.

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The two most fruitful methods for discovering exoplanets (the "transit method" and the "radial velocity method") both give a straightforward way to determine the distance between a star and an exoplanet. That, together with our knowledge of how much heat is given off by the star, lets us calculate whether the planet is in the star's habitable zone. But, as we have seen, that is not the same thing as discovering a habitable planet.

Nevertheless, discoveries of planets in the habitable zones of other stars have been identified in the media and even in press releases of scientific institutions as discoveries of second Earths. Since we do not know the surface temperatures of any exoplanet, whether they are actual Earth analogues can only be guessed at using other lines of evidence.

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To: Bubba_Leroy
If, however, it turns out that the rest of the solar system is sterile, then it is possible that the rest of the universe is just as sterile.

It is just as possible that the rest of our solar system is sterile, and that there are billions of solar systems with only one viable planet, and tens of billions or hundreds of billions with more than one life bearing planet.

41 posted on 02/22/2017 9:11:25 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: dhs12345; Does so
POSTCARD from TRAPPIST1 <> "We miss you. Come see us. Seven worlds to visit. Convenient hotels on each one."


42 posted on 02/22/2017 9:28:17 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
We now know that complex organic molecules are common throughout the galaxy.

Yesterday, I found a VERY complex assembly of organic molecules in my yard.

It weighed a few pounds, I suppose, and looked VERY similar to living organisms that scamper from tree to tree; performing inhuman feats of aerobatic gymnastics.

I couldn't tell how many minutes (hours?) had passed since this assembly actually was a LIVING complex assembly of organic molecules; but it sure wasn't when I lifted it by it's bushy tail.

It appeared to be missing nothing that would have caused it to be NON-living: no holes, no leakage - just no LIFE!!


In all of human experience; we've NEVER detected LIFE coming from NON-life.

It ALWAYS takes something LIVING to propagate itself.


One of the greatest space traveler of our time has said repeatedly...



43 posted on 02/23/2017 3:56:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Axenolith
SETI is privately funded now.

Who'd be silly enough to waste their OWN money on this?

44 posted on 02/23/2017 3:57:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Clay Moore

Voyager is slow compared to Helios II. Proxima Centauri is one of three stars in a cluster and is not visible with the naked eye. It is 4.24 light years away only slightly closer than Alpha Centauri which is 4.37 light years away from our Sun.
Reading about speeds, there was a spacecraft named “Juno” that had a speed of 165,000 mph. Helios II estimated at 157,000. The difference was that Juno was going directly at Jupiter and accelerated due to the gravity of Jupiter.
Interesting stuff!


45 posted on 02/23/2017 10:47:40 AM PST by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Not your problem since the funding of SETI does not come from government grants but rather private contributions..........

I have no clue if that statement is true but I am calling B$ on it anyway because the likelihood of a really stupid program existing without taxpayer support is as likely as finding inhabitable planets other than Earth in our solar system.

46 posted on 02/23/2017 12:12:32 PM PST by itsahoot (Return the power to the people, and Mexico will pay for the wall, 100%)
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To: Salman
Science finds this tooth and


invents this guy


Nebraska Man


What they actually had was a tooth from this guy.

47 posted on 02/23/2017 12:25:05 PM PST by itsahoot (Return the power to the people, and Mexico will pay for the wall, 100%)
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To: itsahoot
I have no clue if that statement is true but I am calling B$ on it anyway

Then my advice to you is to not let BS take the place of what's between your ears, it's unbecoming of you. SETI is a legitimate group of volunteers that can easily be verified.........

48 posted on 02/23/2017 12:50:59 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: BatGuano

Good points. Not as long as we are constrained by the laws of physics. Or the laws as we current understand them.


49 posted on 02/23/2017 5:18:20 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: UCANSEE2

But isn’t that the point.

The micro (and our understanding of it) can directly affect the micro — example: nuclear energy, the atomic bomb.


50 posted on 02/23/2017 5:26:38 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: UCANSEE2

Lol. Do they have nice beaches?


51 posted on 02/23/2017 5:28:35 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Salman

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This is a fantasy that needs to die quicker than soon.
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52 posted on 02/23/2017 5:31:30 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Jamestown1630

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No life is out there, so we obviously cannot measure its intelligence.

After over 40 years of operation, SETI has absolutely nothing to show for its consumption of resources.
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53 posted on 02/23/2017 5:36:06 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Hot Tabasco

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SETI is a bunch of hopeless dreamers.
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54 posted on 02/23/2017 5:39:05 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Maybe they’re so different or so far advanced that we wouldn’t even recognize their existence, or have any way to receive their signals.

Some people have suggested that there may even be intelligent life forms on our own planet that we simply don’t recognize. They could be ‘invisible’ to us, at this stage.


55 posted on 02/23/2017 5:41:01 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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To: dhs12345
"the laws as we current understand them"

The money phrase...
56 posted on 02/23/2017 5:46:33 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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To: editor-surveyor

It must be boring to be so certain of everything.


57 posted on 02/23/2017 5:47:17 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

Strange how NASA’S morphed , literally overnight, to a scientific agency. Post Obama. Huh...


58 posted on 02/23/2017 5:49:33 PM PST by codder too
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To: scottinoc
They need to de-fund SETI.

Agreed. but not for the reasons you state.

As a technology, I believe radio transmission to be a very short lived means of communication for a developing civilization - something that pops up for a century or two before it is superseded by something better. Quantum entanglement or a holographic understanding of the universe.

Radio signals may be the cosmic equivalent of smoke signals. Even if you recognize the smoke as a primitive attempt at communication, you might choose avoid contact with savage, woo woo indians.

59 posted on 02/23/2017 6:02:13 PM PST by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: codder too

When I was young, NASA was very exciting.

I think the future lies with individuals and private enterprises.


60 posted on 02/23/2017 6:09:19 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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