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Bill Gates: Robots That Steal Human Jobs Should Pay Taxes
New York Post ^ | February 18, 2017

Posted on 02/17/2017 11:49:37 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: Bender2

Is Gates losing his mind? This sounds like a psychotic idea.


41 posted on 02/18/2017 1:25:43 AM PST by Impy (End the kritarchy!)
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To: Timpanagos1

Congress is full of Drones....


42 posted on 02/18/2017 1:25:50 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: nickcarraway

Windows replaced lots of workers. We should tax Windows software


43 posted on 02/18/2017 1:26:29 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: Timpanagos1

Necessary taxes for the Feds should radically drop as the current drones are replaced by robots.


44 posted on 02/18/2017 1:28:14 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: Jonty30

“What skill set can robots not eventually develop?”

Eventually is a very long time, but for the purposes of our lifetimes, current law and torts will limit the development of robots to perform jobs with potential for high liability.

Even as it is now, who do you sue if the Ford/Uber/Google autonomous car runs you over in the crosswalk?

Torts will impede the progress of automation.


45 posted on 02/18/2017 1:28:15 AM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Timpanagos1
Next on tap: Social Security Cards. Medicare. AARP. John Q. Robot. Early Robot Specials. Designated parking spaces.It will never end.


46 posted on 02/18/2017 1:31:43 AM PST by Daffynition ("The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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To: Timpanagos1

Your Mom shoulda learned you to not play in the street and to look both ways before crossing, even on a one way street. Plus being a litigeous b@st@rd is no way to go through life.


47 posted on 02/18/2017 1:40:27 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: Jonty30

Fixing antiquated plumbing when it leaks...
Funeral home employees...
Counseling...
Preaching...
Mothering...
Repairing classic cars...
Dog training...


48 posted on 02/18/2017 1:48:49 AM PST by piasa
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To: Paladin2

“Necessary taxes for the Feds should radically drop as the current drones are replaced by robots”

There will be a time when instead of imposing tariffs or taxes on good imported into the country in order to protect jobs, we will have to tax the production of robots in order to protect human’s jobs.

Think about it, if robots take human jobs and the robots do not pay taxes while at the very same time humans are put out of work and also do not pay taxes, the feds are going to be very short on revenue and two-thirds of the people will be out of work.

The only way to fix that would be to place a tax on all goods produced by robots with that tax having the function of both producing revenue from the robots but also putting humans back to work.

Suppose the price for a robot to produce a widget is $100 but that same widget would cost $500 to be produced by humans?

The Widget company will go with the robots, but if each widget made by the robot is taxed at $300 the government could impose a $300 tax on each widget.

The Widget company would have to decide if paying $100 more per Widget would be viable as the workers would have money to buy the widgets while robots have no need to buy widgets.


49 posted on 02/18/2017 1:55:04 AM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Timpanagos1

Are you the shop steward for the Amalagated Agricultural Reapers and Sowers? Automation has been occuring for Centuries. Physical and Virtual Robots of all kinds are nothing new. That prostitutes are going to become unemployed is a big problem? You sound like a Luddite.


50 posted on 02/18/2017 2:01:27 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: Helicondelta
Re: “That’s the lib prescription. Tax the rich and move the poor into wellfare.”

No, the tax rates can stay exactly the same, but tax revenue will explode.

Why? The average employee pays zero income tax on about the first $15,000 of his income.

If that same $15,000 flows to the owner or the corporation, the tax will probably be 40%, because the owner or the corporation have already earned enough to be paying taxes at their highest rate.

The next 20 years will be very disruptive and probably quite dangerous as we transition to a new economy.

But at the other end of that transition, the world will be far more productive, and much more wealthy, than we are today.

51 posted on 02/18/2017 2:02:47 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: Paladin2

I’m not up on techy things but you can spout all you techy things you want to, you miss the root.

It doesn’t matter if some one else would have done it if he didn’t. Gates did do what he did do and so he forever owns his part in the sequence of events. For him to just speak now about things to come is him dismissing his own part and responsibility to what has so far transpired. He created a robot of sorts (a machine with software etc able to reduce the number of people needed to do certain tasks) and it’s made many people lose their jobs over decades. its just a simple fact of history that he seems to not consider as he speaks about future robots and taxing their work/income ability.


52 posted on 02/18/2017 2:03:53 AM PST by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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To: b4me

Read Schumpeter. And History.


53 posted on 02/18/2017 2:06:46 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: zeestephen

U B “woke”.....


54 posted on 02/18/2017 2:10:34 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: piasa

Fixing antiquated plumbing when it leaks...We have automated plumbing devices now. From PEX to the ability send a little robot into clogs and to repair pipes.

Funeral home employees...Undertakers are cold and lifeless anyway and would lose a Mr. Congeniality Contest to the Undertaker Robot.

Counseling...Dr. WATSON from IBM can handle any problem have and not be out on vacation six weeks a year.

Preaching...Have you autonomous car drive your through the Mississippi Delta on a Sunday night and keep tuning the AM radio. In two or three hours of bouncing from one station the the other you will be damned, saved, damned again, saved again, have all your ailments cured and shaken down for cash 36 times.

Mothering...TV, video games, iPod, iPad, iPhone are robots that have taken part of that job.

Repairing classic cars... Come on that’s a hobby, no robot is going to take my hobby.
Dog training...


55 posted on 02/18/2017 2:16:55 AM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Paladin2

thanks, and you may want to brush up on simple things like facts and understanding person’s responsibility in things. If those are foundations are lost who cares about the economy? People do well, or not, largely on their character then economic indicators etc.


56 posted on 02/18/2017 2:20:22 AM PST by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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To: nickcarraway

How about Bill Gates paying taxes for all of the people in Asia making his products


57 posted on 02/18/2017 2:21:00 AM PST by okie 54
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To: b4me

Automation is not inherently evil. It is part and parcel of Western Civ. And productive use of intellect to create societal wealth. Change is still happening. There are all sorts of tasks yet to be automated so I can spend more time hanging out in my backyard with my dog.


58 posted on 02/18/2017 2:25:53 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: Paladin2

Yes, for centuries we have developed tools that have replaced humans in the feds and in the factories. But being tools, the some human intervention.

The robots will be fully autonomous even to the point that they design themselves and build more robots when the robots need to increase production.

That is exactly what honeybees do in a hive, they decide how to design and build their honeycomb, they decide how many bees the should be in the have and control for the number of drones in the hive. They decide what nectar they need and what pollen they need and where in the hive it should be stored.

If bees can operate the most efficient factory in the world, robots can do it too.


59 posted on 02/18/2017 2:30:18 AM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: nickcarraway

No thanks. My ATM fees are high enough already.


60 posted on 02/18/2017 2:34:11 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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