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California's Oroville Dam Disaster Is a Wake-Up Call for America
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Posted on 02/13/2017 10:15:49 PM PST by nickcarraway

No, humans cannot make it rain, stop the rain, or produce real rainbows in the sky. But we can do things that protect ourselves from the rain and get it to work for our agriculture and overall economy. And it's clearer than ever that Californians have simply failed to do those things as the Oroville Dam crisis continues to force massive evacuations and raises fears of a potential disaster.

When we talk about America's need for an improved and repaired infrastructure, we usually focus on roads, airports, and innovative new projects like the Hyperloop. But we often forget the crucial role dams play in our infrastructure grid. When built and used properly, dams provide crucial clean water resources for commercial and private use, ease the effects and threats of flooding, and also provide a massive source of power via hydroelectricity.

The Oroville Dam in Northern California was built to do all those things, and it has. But there's one problem: It's old. The dam was first put into operation in May of 1968, making the nearly 50-year-old facility basically "geriatric" by civil engineering standards. And even if it weren't as old, California's environmental special interest groups have effectively frozen the construction of new dams and reservoirs in the state since the mid-1970s. That's overtaxed the system of existing dams and made the Oroville situation all the more dangerous.

Before this year, the discussion in California about dams was dominated by the fact that the state was experiencing a drought, as opposed to the continued storms and flooding its facing now. Conservatives rightly pointed out that had California built more dams over the last 40 years, there would have been more water stored throughout the state to alleviate the worst conditions of its recent long term and severe drought. Governor Jerry Brown helped put an effective moratorium on dam construction during his first stint as governor from 1975-83.

Yes, there are some real concerns about fish and other wildlife that must be addressed whenever new dams or reservoirs are built. But with California's human population swelling to 40 million, (up from 23 million in 1980), the lack of any significant new dam or reservoir projects in the more rain-heavy northern part of the state is beyond unconscionable.

Brown and the greens were correct that dams don't stop droughts or make it rain, but they can help make conditions less severe and avoid some economic and environmental disasters. Now the problem is the massive rain coming all at once. But the lack of enough dams is again making the problem worse. The Oroville Dam has simply been doing too much of the work for too long. More dams and reservoirs as well as systems to recharge depleted underground aquifers "might have retained some of those heavy flows on the Sacramento and other rivers this month. Even a tiny percentage would make a huge difference when drought once again hits," said opinion writer Dan Walters in an article for the Sacramento Bee.

"And that brings us back to America's general infrastructure crisis and President Donald Trump's promises to launch a massive infrastructure improvement effort. He and we may not think a lot about dams in that context, but we should since the greatest infrastructure building period in modern U.S. history was all about dams." Overzealous environmentalists and Democrats are mostly to blame for inaction, but not completely. Capitalizing on Republican President Richard Nixon's signing of the 1973 Endangered Species Act, animal rights groups used that new weapon to block several key California projects like building the once-planned Dos Rios and Ah Pah reservoirs, raising the Shasta Dam, and building the so-called Peripheral Canal. Ecologists and economic expansionists can debate the merits of sacrificing human water needs for protecting salmon all day. But perhaps they can all agree that the state of California should have done something to cater to a population that's almost doubled in less than half a lifetime. Either the state should have enacted much more stringent usage rules long ago or done something to stem the inflow of new residents.

Another problem with plenty of bipartisan blame to go around is California's budget woes. All the above-mentioned projects are cheaper than most other infrastructure projects like building massive new roads or high speed railways, but they still aren't free. And neither Democratic or Republican governors of the Golden State have been able to keep its budgets very golden over the years.

And that brings us back to America's general infrastructure crisis and President Donald Trump's promises to launch a massive infrastructure improvement effort. He and we may not think a lot about dams in that context, but we should since the greatest infrastructure building period in modern U.S. history was all about dams. That would be the New Deal era of the 1930s and 1940s, when dams comprised the two biggest infrastructure projects of the era. They were the Grand Coulee Dam and the Hoover Dam. They both employed tens of thousands of workers, provided irrigation for new farmland, and produced enough electricity to power entire regions of the country. More than 70 years later, all three of those things are still needed.

As President Trump now faces what may be tens of thousands of infrastructure project requests, the current emergency situation in California should put dam and reservoir building efforts front and center. That might seem like a no-brainer to non-politicos, but politics are definitely a potential barrier. With California not likely to ever vote for a Republican presidential candidate in the foreseeable future, anything other than emergency aid from the White House might also never come. And President Trump has already threatened to cut federal funding to "out of control" California in an interview with Bill O'Reilly earlier this month. Infrastructure shouldn't be held hostage by politics, but who's naive enough to believe it isn't?

In medicine, the first rule is "do no harm." And when it comes to building and rebuilding America, the first rule should be to avoid the worst disasters. Whether it's the Oroville Dam or collapsing bridges like I-35 bridge in Minneapolis 10 years ago, there are a lot of potential disasters that need to be on the top of President Trump's building plans. If the new president is truly the non-politician he often claims to be, addressing California's water fiascoes will indeed be infrastructure job #1.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; dam; infrastructure; oroville; orovilledam
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1 posted on 02/13/2017 10:15:49 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Most of this article up to the end was sane. However, federal infrastructure should not be used to prop up incompetence at the state level. California already has allocated water project funds. Where is that money going? An audit should be required before any money is given to California.


2 posted on 02/13/2017 10:33:11 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: nickcarraway
The Oroville Dam in Northern California was built to do all those things, and it has. But there's one problem: It's old.

"Old" has nothing to do with it. Just stuff it, CNBC.

Hang on for a few minutes, and I'll tell you what I really think ...

3 posted on 02/13/2017 10:33:39 PM PST by dr_lew (I)
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To: nickcarraway
California's Oroville Dam Disaster DEMOCRAT GOVERNORS' FAILURE TO LEAD Is should be a Wake-Up Call for America
4 posted on 02/13/2017 10:35:23 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: nickcarraway

All this is, is carrying water for Brown and the party that has run the state for the last 60 years.

They are desperately trying to shove this off on Bush.

Earlier today they were talking about 12 year old warnings the Feds ignored.

Democrats never take ownership.


5 posted on 02/13/2017 10:41:44 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: nickcarraway

Water districts collect user fees and taxes from every user every month. From evacuation stats, that’s about 200,000 users in the Oroville area. State tax and bond dollars are also allocated for water resource management. Where’d the money go, Mrs. Brown?


6 posted on 02/13/2017 10:46:48 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you." President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: nickcarraway

Yeah, yeah, ok, California’s water storage system sucks and its dams may be inadequate and dangerous, but, by golly, it has a dandy bullet train in the planning.


7 posted on 02/13/2017 10:49:55 PM PST by Robwin
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To: DoughtyOne

The 12 year old proposal to modify the emergency spillway is a red herring.

At issue is the Jerry Brown refusal to properly repair in 2013 the damage and holes in the MAIN spillway that has failed.


8 posted on 02/13/2017 10:50:44 PM PST by rdcbn (.... when Poets buy guns, tourist season is over ...)
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To: rdcbn

Don’t forget the dam was mostly built in Moonbeam’s father’s reign, although Reagan was in at the very finish. When the libs try to prevaricate by saying the dam is old, keep the blame in the family!


9 posted on 02/13/2017 11:00:38 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Waiting for the tweets to hatch!)
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To: nickcarraway

The infrastructure is old...let’s build a choo-choo to nowhere. California made its’ bed.


10 posted on 02/13/2017 11:04:41 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: rdcbn

No, it isn’t the 2013 fiasco. It’s not including the known repair requirements in the 2009 “shovel ready” $800 billion porkulous spendathon


11 posted on 02/13/2017 11:09:43 PM PST by Noob1999 ( r re)
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To: nickcarraway

Forget stupid things like dams. I need to get between Shafter and Bakersfield on a high speed train.


12 posted on 02/13/2017 11:22:35 PM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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Nick, the other part of the story is that Southern California is loosing it’s access to Colorado River Water that it was able to take because Arizona wasn’t using it, now it is. Add to that the lawsuit that LADWP lost regarding their taking inordinate amounts of water from the Owens River because it was destroying Mono Lake. So now, with an ever-increasing population (with most due to illegal aliens), the LA Basin finds itself without needed water. And with one man, one vote, my guess is that it will at least try to vote itself a bigger share of the water coming from places like Oroville Dam.


13 posted on 02/13/2017 11:28:52 PM PST by vette6387
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“Forget stupid things like dams. I need to get between Shafter and Bakersfield on a high speed train.”

May I ask you what are your “picking” specialties?


14 posted on 02/13/2017 11:29:45 PM PST by vette6387
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To: blueplum

Oroville dam does not serve us folks here in Oroville. It serves the Metropolitan Water District in Los Angeles. All of the water in North State is to serve our lord and masters in Southern California. The Metropolitan Water District didn’t want to spend any money fixing up their dam dam. Ae have been fighting the DWR for years for monies promised us to turn our area with a dam we didn’t want into a recreation area. More money was spent fixing up a single small dam/rec area in So Cal in one year than was spent the entire lifetime for the Oroville Dam for similar amenities.

We are rightly ticked off. And the Governor tonight did not help with his cavalier attitude.


15 posted on 02/13/2017 11:36:36 PM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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Yup. Here's the lake in 2013. Mainteance and repairs would have been simple then.

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16 posted on 02/14/2017 12:41:38 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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CA government decided that you don’t need to fix a leaky roof on a sunny day. It needed that money for illegals, transgender awareness, and trains to nowhere.


17 posted on 02/14/2017 3:25:42 AM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: nickcarraway
Be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth and have dominion over it

That ancient concept has been superceded by those in Californika who are smarter than the rest of us... and act as if they are smarter than the ancient who first said that quote.

18 posted on 02/14/2017 3:48:35 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: Vince Ferrer

The money goes to years of environmental reviews, after which all proposals are denied or made prohibitively expensive.
Trump throwing money at CA for infrastructure would be useless for the above reason.


19 posted on 02/14/2017 4:00:27 AM PST by Rusty0604 (bc)
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To: spintreebob

God is not mocked, but Californians have been trying to do just that for quite some time.


20 posted on 02/14/2017 4:01:37 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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