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Deputies still investigating after Wal-Mart customer fatally shoots suspected diaper thief
Orlando Sentinel ^ | February 6, 2017 | By Stephanie Allen

Posted on 02/06/2017 12:37:14 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee

A suspected diaper thief shot dead outside a Pine Hills Wal-Mart on Saturday was a fugitive on felony probation at the time of his death, state records show.

Arthur “Art” Adams, 19, was a gang member who was planning to sell the diapers, Orange County sheriff’s Capt. Angelo Nieves said.

Adams had an arrest record dating to 2011, when he was 15 years old, records show. He was sentenced to four years of probation in June for two 2013 racketeering convictions.

A customer — a 50-year-old man — shot Adams after stepping in to help an employee who had followed Adams and two people with him to the parking lot, investigators said.

Nieves would not release the customer’s name, saying the information is “active criminal investigative information” and therefore exempt from disclosure under Florida’s public records law.

Adams had been arrested at least nine times on charges including grand theft, fleeing law enforcement and selling marijuana.

A Facebook page that appears to be his shows him grinning as he displays a large wad of cash in one hand and a gun in the other. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; diapers; florida; gangs; goodguyswithguns; orlando; theft; walmart
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

LOL!...........


21 posted on 02/06/2017 1:09:38 PM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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To: Sans-Culotte
I always go armed to Walmart, but I would not have intervened in this case.

Same here. Let him have the diapers. My firearm is reserved for the situation where we start getting herded into the back room for an execution.

22 posted on 02/06/2017 1:12:07 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Nieves would not release the customer’s name, saying the information is “active criminal investigative information” and therefore exempt from disclosure under Florida’s public records law.

Unfair! How can the dead perp's homies find and kill the good guy if they won't release his name?

23 posted on 02/06/2017 1:12:22 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Building the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Deputies said the suspects got into a car that was stolen during a carjacking last month

Yep, just good kids all.

24 posted on 02/06/2017 1:12:48 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I read that, but this will have to play out more before I know which way to go on that.

If he see’s a weapon, fine. I’m not trying to be unreasonable.

I’m simply reserving judgement at this point.


25 posted on 02/06/2017 1:14:39 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: Cold Heart
Concealed carry classes tell you to carry your lawyers card with your concealed carry ID and have $20,000 handy for legal defense.

Isn't there an insurance policy to cover that? Carrying your liars...I mean, lawyers card could be evidence of premeditation!

26 posted on 02/06/2017 1:15:15 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Building the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

It took 12 posts to get to a “Raising Arizona” reference? We’re slipping.


27 posted on 02/06/2017 1:16:19 PM PST by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: scripter

it was diaper caper, so could be a contained event....


28 posted on 02/06/2017 1:18:31 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: DoughtyOne

I understand, but one doesn’t need see a weapon to believe their life is in immediate danger. It happens with cops all the time, for good reason.


29 posted on 02/06/2017 1:18:36 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TonyM

Headed? He was already in the thick of it. The press is pushing the “diapers” part of the story to give the impression that a struggling father was stealing to provide much needed diapers for his family and then shot by an overzealous privileged person taking the law into his own hands. Next we will see. “He died for Pampers!!!”


30 posted on 02/06/2017 1:19:04 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lixII1thTO4


31 posted on 02/06/2017 1:20:13 PM PST by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I read another article that implied the shooter came to help a clerk who had pursued the shoplifter. Perhaps he thought he or she was being threatened?


32 posted on 02/06/2017 1:21:41 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lastchance

The diapers part is media bull shit.

More media lies and propaganda. This guy was a one man crime wave and their getaway car was stolen after being recently carjacked. And they came out of the store with 2 FULL carts of unpaid merchandise.


33 posted on 02/06/2017 1:22:52 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Not having been there, and not having more than a sketchy description of what actually took place, I can’t say for sure if this guy was right or wrong.

If the guy is digging and whips around, then fine.

If he was just digging, not so much.

I’m not asking the shooter to take too big a risk, but I do want it to be a clean shoot. I’m sure you do also.


34 posted on 02/06/2017 1:32:55 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I can’t say for sure either. But based on reports here and elsewhere, if the good samaritan shooter felt threatened as reports indicate, and felt one of the suspect was going for a weapon to arm himself as reported....Well that would be hard to disprove...And considering the suspects backgrounds....

Bottom line here, I don’t think the shooter will have any issues. We’ll eventually find out.


35 posted on 02/06/2017 1:39:18 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DoughtyOne
The real question is, was the shooter or someone else’s life under threat of extreme harm when he shot the thief? There are reasoned situations for a lethal response, and there are unreasonable ones.

Read the story, it says that the shooter thought the perp was arming himself and thus shot him....close enough

36 posted on 02/06/2017 1:39:41 PM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: DoughtyOne
It’s my hope that it was a clean justified shooting. I don’t like the idea of a young (even thug) kid shot over $100 dollars worth of diapers, no matter how much I disagree with his lifestyle and actions.

Me neither, but do we wait until his next crime when he seriously injures or kills someone.....it was bound to happen you know....he was a known gang member and that's what they do.

37 posted on 02/06/2017 1:44:24 PM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I hate headlines like this.

He didn’t get shot because he was stealing diapers. He got shot because he was fighting with the security guard.


38 posted on 02/06/2017 1:51:33 PM PST by nitzy
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To: dragnet2

Here’s a good analysis of a similar incident:

https://concealedcarryuniversity.org/exclusive-viewing-3-seconds-from-now-gunfight-analysis-and-review-ia/


39 posted on 02/06/2017 1:51:39 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: dragnet2

Comments by the person in question are reasoned to consider as part of the investigation. I agree with that. He may be telling the absolute truth too.

We agree we don’t know.

I was involved in a traffic accident last year. The light arrow turned green and I proceeded through the intersection turning left.

A driver coming in the opposite direction blew threw his red light and pulled directly in front of me. I broadsided his car.

I jammed on my brakes and swerved a bit left to minimize impact.

My car was barely damaged, and only at the immediate area of the corner of my vehicle, within ten inches.

His car had a deep impact and a long scrape.

From the impact damage it was crystal clear I told the truth.

He claimed that I sideswiped him.

My insurance company is still going through levels of arbitrators to get his company to cover my damages.

Never underestimate the ability for folks to come up with a reasonable alternative description of reality, even if there isn’t a bit of truth to it.


40 posted on 02/06/2017 1:52:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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