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Turnbull humiliated for thinking he could outsmart Donald Trump, Andrew Bolt writes
Hearld Sun ^ | 2/02/2017 | Andrew Bolt

Posted on 02/03/2017 2:05:05 AM PST by nikos1121

MALCOLM Turnbull thought he could outsmart Donald Trump and trap him into taking 1250 of our boat people.

Huge mistake, and now he’s been humiliated.

There is no surprise that an angry Trump attacked Turnbull in their call at the weekend and hung up halfway through, after just 25 minutes.

What did Turnbull expect?

This political disaster was always on the cards from the moment Turnbull announced, on November 13 last year, that he’d signed a deal with then US president Barack Obama to take our boat people detained on Nauru and Manus Island.

That was very dumb because just five days earlier Trump had been unexpectedly elected the next president, having campaigned hard against exactly this kind of thing.

Trump had made it perfectly clear that he was against taking in alleged refugees from jihadist countries without at least “extreme vetting”. Turnbull knew this. In fact, he’d planned to announce his Obama arrangement early this year, but after Trump’s win rushed it forward in an apparent attempt to present Trump with a fait accompli — a done-deal the new President would not dare undo.

Trump had no choice but to back off. The Post had reported him accusing Turnbull of wanting to send him more “Boston bombers”, and he could hardly now tell the American voters he was happy to take them.

So Trump instead tweeted: “Do you believe it? The Obama Administration agreed to take thousands of illegal immigrants from Australia. Why? I will study this dumb deal!”

Turnbull has a very nervous wait now to see if his boat people “solution” will survive. He’s also learned a very hard lesson: don’t try messing with Trump.

Trump had no choice but to back off. The Post had reported him accusing Turnbull of wanting to send him more “Boston bombers”, and he could hardly now tell the American voters he was happy to take them.

So Trump instead tweeted: “Do you believe it? The Obama Administration agreed to take thousands of illegal immigrants from Australia. Why? I will study this dumb deal!”

Turnbull has a very nervous wait now to see if his boat people “solution” will survive. He’s also learned a very hard lesson: don’t try messing with Trump.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; first100days; manus; manusisland; muslims; nauru; oops; refugees; trump; trump45; turnbull
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You are going to have to search high and low to find a US media outlet to report this. Apparently, Trunbull leaked the Trump conversation to the press Down Under.

In fact at around 10:45, finally, the interviewer is trying to get the reporter to state that Trump's team leaked the conversation. He wouldn't say that.

IN SHORT, TURNBULL LEAKED THE CONVERSATION TO THE PRESS. IT LOOKS LIKE THIS WILL BACK FIRE ON HIM, BUT TRY TO FIND A US MEDIA OUTLET TO REPORT THIS STORY ACCURATELY.

In fact, on Fox News last night, they were trying to imply that someone in the Trump organization leaked the story. Again trying to undermine the loyalty of Trump's people.

1 posted on 02/03/2017 2:05:05 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

Social Media gives the world the opportunity to learn the truth about everything.

If not, Assange will release this info next year :)

THE MAIN THING is these “boat people” dont come and kill.

BTW, why didn’t he ask obummer to accept them right away, fully knowing Trump wouldn’t?


2 posted on 02/03/2017 2:16:32 AM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: nikos1121

Yesterday, on Fox and friends, Steve Ducey asked Kellyanne Conway who Sprung the leak, but she wouldn’t say. Ducey then asked if it was someone from the state department, and she just smiled and said something like figure it out for yourselves. Since she didn’t deny it was the State Dept. Fox News speculated for most of the day that it was someone from State.

It was not until Special Report did I hear anyone (Chris Stirewalt) speculate that it was Australia that leaked.

I’m still thinking that it was State Dept since Conway didn’t deny it was them when she was asked.


3 posted on 02/03/2017 2:37:13 AM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: be-baw

Someone, I think it was Kellyanne, confirmed yesterday that the leaks are not coming from the White House—they have their stuff together. She said straight up that the leaks were coming from State.


4 posted on 02/03/2017 2:50:03 AM PST by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: be-baw
I’m still thinking that it was State Dept since Conway didn’t deny it was them when she was asked.

I'm not so sure I would think that way. Remember that Trump, including the senior members of his campaign, disdain to act like typical politicians. Sometimes, saying nothing when asked a question is a way to get the inquisitor to reveal something about what they know.

The media has gotten very, very lazy. Trump has challenged them to do their jobs, which AP/CNN/etc. seem to beieve means "making sh$t up". At least Fox asked a question, received no answer, then speculated - not reporting as fact, but as unconfirmed information.

5 posted on 02/03/2017 2:50:54 AM PST by MortMan (The white board is a remarkable invention. Chalk one up for creativity!)
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To: be-baw

AS usual, we don’t know, but from the reading of this article and listening to the interview, it is clear to me that the call was leaked from Trunbull’s group, as he thought he could man handle Trump that way, and make him look bad.

Problem is, Trump is a transparent guy, and turned the tables on Turnbull, saying he’d honor the deal, but let him know that it was chicken sh*t on Turnbull’s part the way he did it, and the way it was kept quiet.

Also, Turnbull leaks it to the Washington Post of all places.

I honestly don’t think Kellyanne knew, but how would the state dept know, if they were not in the room?

IOWs, it sounds like Trump’s people are solidly with him, and are not going to leak anything, unless Trump wants it leaked.

This is not going to go down well.

THE BOTTOM LINE TO ME IS, THAT YOU CANNOT FIND THIS STORY ANY WHERE.


6 posted on 02/03/2017 2:53:06 AM PST by nikos1121 (We are about to see The Golden Age of Pericles in the new Trump Administration.)
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To: nikos1121

I heard on Fox that later Trump quietly told Trunbull that he would accept the “boat people.” It seems as if the agreement that Zer0 made with Australia was cast in stone and Trump could not back out of it. Is this correct?


7 posted on 02/03/2017 2:53:33 AM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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To: be-baw

the leak was from the sleaze ball Aussie snake leader.

read the conservative treehouse story.

they had the story about Turnbilll double crossing behavior and gave out information the losers at Stare would not have .

The idiot burned his bridges with th USA .


8 posted on 02/03/2017 2:57:21 AM PST by ncalburt
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To: nikos1121

I’m thinking the US Ambassador to Australia was in the room...in Australia.


9 posted on 02/03/2017 2:57:39 AM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: ncalburt

So answer this. Why hasn’t one media outlet here in the USA made this perfectly clear? I hate the friggin press.


10 posted on 02/03/2017 3:03:45 AM PST by nikos1121 (We are about to see The Golden Age of Pericles in the new Trump Administration.)
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To: be-baw

Fox is a lib light propaganda.
the producers at left wing Fox won’t let the truth come out.
Murdoch are Aussies or foreigners.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/02/australias-turnbull-tries-a-dirty-deed-meets-the-atomic-sledgehammer-of-american-president-trump/

it was the sleazy Aussie .


11 posted on 02/03/2017 3:04:49 AM PST by ncalburt
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Hey Malcolm, I have a counter-offer. You keep them. What's that? Obama and you had a deal? Well here is a news flash for you: I am not Obama.

12 posted on 02/03/2017 3:10:48 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: nikos1121

They hate Trump and bash him every second with lies.
it’s time to throw these media fools out of the WH and congress .
No inside access.

take them to court ever time they lie.

the WH needs to Mock and belittle them hourly.
john mccain needs to be charged with treason for taking false foreign agents info to the fbi.
he tried to over the president with foreign agent false smears.


13 posted on 02/03/2017 3:11:52 AM PST by ncalburt
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To: be-baw

Lol. Trump leaked it. He wants to shame the nutjob PM into keeping the refugees. It’s so obvious. The state department doesn’t have access to his phone calls.


14 posted on 02/03/2017 3:19:25 AM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: ncalburt

“it was the sleazy Aussie”

Lol. Did he leak Trump’s phone call with the Mexican president also?


15 posted on 02/03/2017 3:25:53 AM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: Helicondelta

your source ?


16 posted on 02/03/2017 3:29:22 AM PST by ncalburt
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To: ncalburt

Source? I asked a question. Trump’s call with the Mexican president was also leaked.


17 posted on 02/03/2017 3:35:04 AM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: Helicondelta

never heard much on that.

The Lousy and treasonous TPP deal was good for Australia .

they could dump all there excess agriculture here.
Barry did the TPP deal to kill off American agriculture as well as other jobs.

Aussie were ticked off Trump killed that scam too and wanted pay back.


18 posted on 02/03/2017 3:45:28 AM PST by ncalburt
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To: nikos1121
IOWs, it sounds like Trump’s people are solidly with him, and are not going to leak anything, unless Trump wants it leaked.

Which means we will never know who leaked this, because Trump is playing 3-D Chess and the press is having a tough time with tic-tac-toe.

Regardless of this specific leak, Trump just shrugs it off, and says, "Fuggetaboutit, Luca, put their brains on the contract".

The cigar looks like a DeNobili.

19 posted on 02/03/2017 3:53:56 AM PST by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: nikos1121

First of all, the revelation that Turnbull made the deal after the US election totally exposes what a worm this guy is. And yesterday we have idiots like McCain apologizing to him and Mark Levin bashing Trump for trashing the relationship with such a great ally like the Aussies. They should know what a snake Turnbull is to make a deal like that with a jag like Obama.

The deal needs to be rescinded. Make an example of what happens to those that want to take advantage of America by dealing dirty


20 posted on 02/03/2017 3:54:29 AM PST by Navin Johnson
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