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Apple and Others Pen Open Letter to Trump: 'We Are a Nation Made Stronger by Immigrants'
MacRumors nwsletter ^ | February 2, 2017 5:17 | Mitchel Broussard

Posted on 02/02/2017 1:49:39 PM PST by LeoWindhorse

Dear President Trump,

Since the country’s birth, America has been the land of opportunity – welcoming newcomers and giving them the chance to build families, careers, and businesses in the United States. We are a nation made stronger by immigrants.

(Excerpt) Read more at macrumors.com ...


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To: LeoWindhorse
No, we're not. That's just an empty phrase, a vapid mantra with no evidence to support it.

On the other hand, there's plenty of evidence that unchecked immigration (including the illegal kind) makes us, if not weaker, then certainly more vulnerable.

41 posted on 02/02/2017 2:37:21 PM PST by IronJack
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To: LeoWindhorse

Even when I have private conversations about illegal immigrants and terrorists, people always try to convert the conversation to immigrants in general.

Should tell anyone how they thought they were faring with the discussion focused on illegals and terrorists.


42 posted on 02/02/2017 2:39:15 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

The tech giants are used to paying bottom dollar wages to foreign engineers brought in under H1-B visas....

They are terrified that Trump will eliminate, significantly reduce or modify the compensation requirement.....

The effect will be a serious reduction in profitability and more importantly, will directly impact senior management compensation.....

Don’t ever believe they are doing this because they are SJW’s....


43 posted on 02/02/2017 2:40:54 PM PST by nevergore
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To: LeoWindhorse

You are a company that skirts market rates by hiring immigrants over Americans

Let’s just cut to the chase, shall we


44 posted on 02/02/2017 2:49:27 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Liberalism is a mental disorder" On FULL Display NOW BOYCOTT Mexico NFL PepsiCO Kellogg's)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And also by our history and heritage. I don’t find today’s immigrants, be they legal or illegal to give much of a damn about either. We are already 330 million, paving over fertile farmland, prairie, original forests to make way for more crowded freeways, housing, crime, welfare, et al

No thanks. To paraphrase the left, since we can’t take em all, why take any?


45 posted on 02/02/2017 2:54:25 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Liberalism is a mental disorder" On FULL Display NOW BOYCOTT Mexico NFL PepsiCO Kellogg's)
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To: LeoWindhorse
Since the country’s birth, America has been the land of opportunity – welcoming newcomers and giving them the chance to build families, careers, and businesses in the United States. We are a nation made stronger by immigrants.

We are a nation made stronger by LEGAL immigrants.

Does Apple understand that there is a difference between legal and illegal immigrants?

If they do understand the difference, why would they even raise the question?

46 posted on 02/02/2017 2:56:38 PM PST by olezip
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To: pgyanke

My coworkers think that because “the land was stolen from the Indians,” we have to let in everybody now.

SO...because of something that happened over 200 years ago, this will NEVER be our country. We can never decide who comes in. We must be swamped by whatever millions want to flood in here, forever, and have no say.


47 posted on 02/02/2017 3:01:02 PM PST by Nea Wood
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To: LeoWindhorse

What America needs is an American computer manufacturer who has its only plants in the continental USA and employs Americans exclusively.

Of course we also need a candy company that makes chocolate bars here.


48 posted on 02/02/2017 3:01:29 PM PST by HomerBohn (Shove a slinky down the stairs, then a leftist. Both actions will bring smiles to your face.)
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To: LeoWindhorse; dayglored; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 5thGenTexan; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; ...
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49 posted on 02/02/2017 3:14:00 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Because Apple uses those people for cheap labor..they would NEVER have an Apple plant here in the US, would cost them too much so instead they want to hire cheap labor while they get stinkin rich

Apple already has Apple manufacturing plants in the US in Elk Grove, California, building iMacs, and in Austin, Texas, building Mac Pros. These have been here for years. Apple is also promoting Foxconn building a $2 billion plant in Pennsylvania to manufacture iPhones. This has been in the works since June of 2016. Sorry to burst your bubble.

50 posted on 02/02/2017 3:16:27 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Legal immigrants, not random invaders and colonists.

LEGAL immigrants.


51 posted on 02/02/2017 3:23:52 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.)
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To: RummyChick
Cook..pay the taxes apple owes to Ireland

Both Ireland and Apple AGREE that Apple owes Ireland ZERO taxes. Only and obscure EU Competition Commission which has ZERO power over member nation tax laws claims that Apple owes Ireland anything. The treaty that created the European Economic Union specifically denied the EU any power to control the member nation's tax policies, rates, or laws. The charter of this "Competition Commission" does not give it the power to order any such change in the treaty or the tax policies of any of the member nations of the EU. The chairwoman of the Commission merely illegally arrogated that power to her commission. Both Ireland and Apple are challenging her commission's power to do anything of the kind.

This would be similar to the US Federal Trade Commission suddenly deciding Tax Law on its own and telling a company to pay California back taxes on its own authority that California had not billed for nor which was in California's tax code.

It is well established international law that multinational businesses pay income taxes in their home nations, not in every nation and/or every political jurisdiction in which they do business. This has been international law for over 150 years. The EU Competition Commission cannot unilaterally change the world's accounting and taxation laws just on a whim of a few appointed Liberal whackos.

52 posted on 02/02/2017 3:26:53 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: LeoWindhorse

It’s time to give these business leaders & employers *real* H1-B reform.


53 posted on 02/02/2017 3:29:00 PM PST by bobcat62
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To: LeoWindhorse

Cheap laborers with diminished rights.
The South should have used H1-b visas instead of slavery...

No, importing slaves is an aberration. It can only rarely be done without causing net harm.


54 posted on 02/02/2017 3:30:58 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Swordmaker

Ireland came out gave a figure of what is owed


55 posted on 02/02/2017 3:32:47 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: HomerBohn
What America needs is an American computer manufacturer who has its only plants in the continental USA and employs Americans exclusively.

Apple is the only major maker of computers that has plants in the USA. Apple makes its iMacs in Elk Grove, California, and Mac Pros in Austin, Texas. However, many of the iMac components do come from off shore. The Mac Pro is 90% or more made of US parts.

Apple is in the process of having a $2 billion FoxConn assembly plant started in Pennsylvania to make iPhones.

56 posted on 02/02/2017 3:34:55 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Business made easily profitable by cheap illegal llabor and cheap H1B workers, maybe...

Critical reform (policy, politically) on immigration from Day One: Freeze corrupt H1B and L1 visas
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3499225/posts


57 posted on 02/02/2017 3:44:41 PM PST by polymuser (There's a big basket of deportables.)
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To: RummyChick
Ireland came out gave a figure of what is owed

No, Ireland did not. An obscure EU commission is behind all of this and THEY are the ones who came up with the amount they claim is due. Ireland is fighting the order. Apple has paid all the taxes Ireland claims it wanted.

Ireland to fight EU order to collect €13bn in back taxes from Apple

Dublin government argues it should be allowed to choose how much it levies on foreign companies

EU competition commissioner Margrethe Vestager’s decision that Apple must pay back taxes to Ireland is being challenged by the Dublin government.


EU competition commissioner Margrethe Vestager’s decision that Apple must pay back taxes to
Ireland is being challenged by the Dublin government. Photograph: Eric Vidal/Reuters

Associated Press
Monday 19 December 2016 02.54 EST

Ireland will appeal the European Union’s order to force it to collect a record €13bn in taxes from Apple, the Irish government has said.

The Irish finance department’s announcement on Monday comes nearly four months after EU competition authorities hit Apple with the back-tax bill based on its longtime reporting of European-wide profits through Ireland. The country charges the American company only for sales on its own territory at Europe-low rates that in turn have been greatly reduced by the controversial use of shell companies at home and abroad.

The ruling unveiled 30 August by the European competition commissioner Margrethe Vestager called on Apple to pay Ireland the €13bn for gross underpayment of tax on profits across the bloc from 2003 to 2014. Her report concluded that the California-based Apple used two shell companies incorporated in Ireland to permit Apple to report its Europe-wide profits at effective rates well under 1%.

Even the "shell company" claim is incorrect, because the EU Competition Commission, being made up of socialists, does not have a clue how international income taxation works in that income flows through to Apple,Inc, in the USA, which paid the taxes in the USA. . . just as Samsung paid its income taxes in South Korea, Sony pays its income taxes in Japan, Thomson/GE pays its income taxes in France, and any company with a GmBH pays its income taxes in Germany.

All of this has been in the international tax codes for over 150 years and is perfectly legal and equitable. Otherwise accounting for taxation would be chaos.

In exchange for the advantageous tax rates for what IS earned in Ireland, Apple pumps almost €20 billion into the Irish economy EVERY YEAR through salaries and economic activity. Apple is just ONE of over 600 multinationals that is taking advantage of Ireland's advantageous tax rules. The EU Competition Commission is allowed to only look at tax advantages that are NOT offered to all companies equally but Ireland DOES offer the same advantageous tax benefits to any company that locates in Ireland. Ergo, the EU Competition Commission has no jurisdiction and can show no preferential treatment to Apple. In addition, the EU, by the original treaty that formed the EU, cannot meddle in member nations' tax laws, arrangements, or rates. That Treaty is the EU's equivalent of our Constitution, their founding document.

58 posted on 02/02/2017 3:59:14 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Yet another reason to have nothing to do with anything ‘Apple’.


59 posted on 02/02/2017 4:20:01 PM PST by tomkat
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To: b4its2late

Cheap labor express traitors.


60 posted on 02/02/2017 4:21:17 PM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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