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California Threatens To Cut Off Funds To Washington
ZeroHedge.com ^ | 28 January 2017 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 01/28/2017 3:15:13 PM PST by Rockitz

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To: JPJones; nopardons

nopardons is a she.

She just punches way above her weight. You duel with her at your own peril once her blood gets up.


221 posted on 01/28/2017 10:54:46 PM PST by Pelham (liberate Occupied California)
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To: Windflier

” I’d much prefer we tax consumption instead, which is why I find the Fair Tax appealing.”

It’s why I prefer tariffs gradually replacing income taxes. Like it used to be pre 1913.

“The old adage goes, ‘If you want less of something, tax it. If you want more of something, subsidize it.’

Yup. We want less imports and more jobs.

“The geniuses in our government don’t seem to be able to figure that out.”

The geniuses in our government want more Treasury sales and higher taxes. IOW more loot for themselves.


222 posted on 01/28/2017 11:01:37 PM PST by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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To: Pelham

“nopardons is a she.”

Roh-ro.


223 posted on 01/28/2017 11:06:20 PM PST by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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To: publius911

Should the rest of the nation cut off a big part of their electricity and water? Do we let them keep the seaports?


224 posted on 01/29/2017 4:14:54 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: JPJones
I prefer tariffs gradually replacing income taxes. Like it used to be pre 1913.

Prior to 1913, America was almost wholly self sufficient, though we had active international trade even then. It was quite possible for the states to trade with one another, as we produced almost everything we needed domestically. It made for a simpler life, with far less foreign entanglements.

But that was then. The world has become increasingly connected, and continents and nations have become very dependent on international trade.

At this point, tariffs are more a tool to make other countries play fair with us, than a means to fund the federal government.

I don't think we could properly fund our government through tariffs, even if our government were greatly downsized. When a Honda Accord costs 30% more than a Chevy Cruze, folks will buy the Chevy, so there goes the tariff money to fund the government.

How does the government make up that shortfall?

There's no doubt they'll do it by taxing the citizens. Now, how they go about collecting those taxes, is the question. Do they continue to violate basic economic axioms, or do they wise up and begin taxing the consumption side of economic activity?

Taxing consumption makes everyone a taxpayer, and equally spreads the burden of funding the government across every class of citizens. States already use this method of taxation to fund their governments. Unfortunately, many states also assess a tax on income, so they're taxing production AND consumption. That's just thievery, in my book.

Anywho, this is a huge subject, and we could go on for months discussing it. I'm just throwing a few of my thoughts out there.

225 posted on 01/29/2017 9:53:05 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: butlerweave

Puts federally chartered banks in an interesting position. I expect the counter-move would be for the Feds to seize any state administered accounts. Check & Mate.


226 posted on 01/29/2017 12:12:56 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: nopardons

Hate to tell you this but your check is a digital payment. You hold the money in your bank account send the check to whomever, then the bank transfers money from your bank account into their account digitally. Unless you think there is a magic fairy that goes to your bank and physically withdrawals the money from your account and then physical puts it into their account. Just because you write a paper check doesn’t make it not digital.


227 posted on 01/31/2017 6:20:00 PM PST by zaxtres
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