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Three-month-old boy becomes Melbourne rampage killer's fifth victim...
Daily Mail (Australia/UK) ^ | 22nd January 2017 | Riley Morgan and Freya Noble

Posted on 01/21/2017 9:48:13 PM PST by naturalman1975

The tragic fallout from the horror rampage in Melbourne continued on Saturday with a three-month-old boy succumbing to his injuries, becoming the fifth person to die in the attack.

Dimitrious Gargasoulas, 26, has been identified as the man who drove an allegedly stolen maroon Holden Commodore along Bourke Street on Friday afternoon, ploughing through people on the packed sidewalk as they desperately ducked for cover.

Four people died at the scene, and police said on Saturday 37 were rushed to hospital. At least ten of them are still in a serious condition, and there are fears the the death toll could rise further.

The fifth victim from the rampage, the young boy, died on Saturday night.

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The mother of Dimitrious Gargasoulas says she feels 'ashamed' to be his mum.

'I feel so ashamed and bad, you know,' Emily Gargasoulas told 7 News.

'I don't want to be known that I'm the mother. Go to hell and die in hell.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: carattack; gargasoulas; melbourne; rop
Full headline: Three-month-old boy becomes Melbourne rampage killer's fifth victim as suspect's girlfriend says she 'pleaded for her life' in death car before the attack... and his MOTHER says he can 'die in hell'
1 posted on 01/21/2017 9:48:13 PM PST by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975
From another DM article:
He [Gargasoulas] claimed to be “Greek Islamic Kurdish” and a follower of Yazdanism, the native religion of the Kurds before the arrival of Islam, also known as the “cult of Angels”. …
That seems almost contradictory, since most Muslims consider Yazdanism and its offshoot Yazidism to be devil worship, identifying the “Peacock Angel” with Iblis/Satan.
2 posted on 01/21/2017 9:55:53 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Had the stench of sudden jihadi syndrome.


3 posted on 01/21/2017 9:58:32 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Certainly does, at that. Trying to confuse the enemy by making his rants as wild as possible too.


4 posted on 01/21/2017 10:00:38 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Having spent some time wading through his Facebook page, to me it seems more likely than anything else that the man is either schizophrenic or suffering some sort of drug induced delusion. Expecting consistency might not be entirely reasonable.

I want to wait and see what comes out after police interviews and at his eventual trial. Until then, some sort of Islamist ideology seems quite plausible to me - but so does just plain insanity.

I also wonder if he was attempting suicide by cop - he drove in circles repeatedly around an intersection literally surrounded by known terrorism targets - and he upped the ante when they wouldn’t shoot him.


5 posted on 01/21/2017 10:11:55 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

>I want to wait and see what comes out after police interviews and at his eventual trial. Until then, some sort of Islamist ideology seems quite plausible to me - but so does just plain insanity.

Islam has always fed on weaponizing insanity.


6 posted on 01/21/2017 10:15:08 PM PST by RedWulf (TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!)
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To: naturalman1975

Glad Australia got rid of guns. There certainly wont be any more asshole mass murd.... oh.


7 posted on 01/21/2017 10:48:42 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of The Great King!)
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To: Dogbert41
I wish this myth would die. Australia did not get rid of guns - and everytime an American repeats this myth, it makes it harder for those of us in Australia to hold on to our guns. It's a hell of a lot easier for a government to get rid of a right that people are already convinced doesn't exist.

There are millions of firearms legally held in private hands in Australia. Take a look at this website for my favourite Australian gun shop.

I'm sure you are a honest person - but that's what the liars rely on. They rely on honest people believing their lies and innocently spreading them further. People don't believe somebody they know to be a liar - but when somebody they know to be honest inadvertently passes on the lie, they get believed.

The left wing in America wants to paint Australia as a gun free utopia - a lie - so they can spread the idea that America can be such a utopia - another lie. And unfortunately it seems to be working. This comes up over and over again on FR.

That isn't to say we don't have our fair share of dumb gun laws. We have universal registration and universal licencing and all sorts of dumb, pointless, restrictions. But we're gradually getting more and more of those rolled back and it'd be a lot easier if we weren't having to deal with people who actually think the restrictions are far greater than they are.

8 posted on 01/21/2017 11:01:39 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975; Dogbert41

Excellent riposte. Exactly the same, as you well know, could equally well be said of the FR myth about guns in the UK. It would be great if there were some clever device which flashed up your post whenever (as they do with wearisome regularity) these myths about either country resurface on this forum!


9 posted on 01/22/2017 1:20:05 AM PST by Winniesboy
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Q: Does Australia have a written Constitution? One that recognizes the right to bear arms?


10 posted on 01/22/2017 4:21:57 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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Don’t know. Ask the real Crocodile Dundee that. You can’t though as the Aussie govt killed him to take his guns away.


11 posted on 01/22/2017 4:25:12 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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I know that the UK doesn’t have one. If that’s the case in Australia as well, seems to me that the citizenry should address that posthaste. They can crib ours, paying special attention to the first 10 amendments.


12 posted on 01/22/2017 4:28:17 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: naturalman1975

I wonder when the media will blame Trump on this? (Extra points if they blame Barron. Media, including SNL, leave Barron alone!!)


13 posted on 01/22/2017 4:50:28 AM PST by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The religion of Pedophilia...)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Don’t know. Ask the real Crocodile Dundee that. You can’t though as the Aussie govt killed him to take his guns away.

No, they didn't. That's another myth.

His name was Rod Ansell, and he was shot dead by police, but it had nothing to do with any attempt to take his guns off him - no such attempt was ever made.

Ansell developed a belief that there was some sort of conspiracy against him in the late 1980s when he was required to shoot 3000 feral buffalo living on his land as part of a tuberculosis eradication program. He had apparently planned to try and domesticate and farm the buffalo and so he regarded this requirement as having ruined his life. He lost his land and his marriage collapsed and it's believed to be about this time that he first became a serious drug user. He had several brushes with the law and was convicted of cattle rustling and assault. Legally, once he had a criminal record, they could have taken his guns - but, in fact, they didn't. The police understood that living where he did, his firearms were an essential tool.

On the 2nd August 1999, police were called because somebody was firing at people's homes. It was Ansell. During that incident Ansell fired a shot that cost a man his eye before fleeing the scene. Police set up roadblocks to try and capture Ansell.

At approximately 10.30am the following morning Rod Ansell opened fire on one of those roadblocks. He seriously wounded a man who was there talking to police. Then he shot and killed police Sergeant Glen Huitson. Nearby 'SWAT' (actually TRG) officers responded, but Ansell was actually shot and killed by Huitson's partner, Senior Constable James O'Brien.

A subsequent autopsy found that Ansell had taken a lot of amphetamines prior to the incident.

Ansell was not killed as part of any attempt to take his guns off him. He was a paranoid drug addict who murdered a policeman and wounded two other people in the events that lead up to his death.

14 posted on 01/22/2017 1:58:21 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: mewzilla
Does Australia have a written Constitution?

Yes. We have a single document that is referred to as the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia that came into effect when Australia federated as a single nation on the 1st January 1901, but we also inherited the constitutional documents that make up the British constitution that were in effect on that date.

One that recognizes the right to bear arms?

Technically, yes, as that right was recognised in the English Bill of Rights of 1689 - but it's limited in a way that the US Second Amendment isn't because it contains the words "as allowed by law," meaning Parliament has the legal power to set limits. It creates a very different legal situation.

Australians do not have a clear constitutional right to bear arms - however, the law does allow it to some extent (not as much as I'd like, but a lot more than some people seem to think) and it's very important to some of us that those laws are not tightened even further. Over the last decade or so, we've actually started to get some of them relaxed after the post-Port Arthur hysteria died down - but it makes it harder for us when people spread misinformation about the laws.

A couple of years ago, a colleague reported me to the police because I mentioned that I own a semi-automatic rifle and he believed that I'd just admitted to breaking the law because he thought all semi-automatic rifles were banned. Why did he think that? Because he'd seen it on CNN in an American news story about Australian gun laws (you need a specific licence to own semi automatics, over and above the basic gun licence, but they are not banned in Australia - yet, we constantly see reports that they are from the US).

15 posted on 01/22/2017 2:13:15 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975; Winniesboy

My Brother-in-law is able to own some nice .22s and stuff for his boys to shoot at the club, but I’ll never forget when he had to crunch up the towns’ guns with a bulldozer in the Outback where he taught school.

Since I received two posts from Australians regarding my comment, i’ll refrain from making any more about your gun laws, but dont think I’m ignorant of them.


16 posted on 01/24/2017 8:56:18 AM PST by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of The Great King!)
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